VT HITCH
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TheTreeSpyder
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i use one of those keychain carabviners everyonce in a while. Usually my Icicle self tends fairly well, especially climbing up, before jamming tighter with body impacts and leveraged higher by hanging at leaned nagle on line (your weight on a non vertical line, leverages tension higher in line, so knots/hitches tighten. Similar eefects of some self tending can be had with a Kut or TK finish under VT braids i think.
Tom i believe has pictured a brass 'dog chain'/hardware snap i think for his tender. On lanyard same, adjustable friction hitch with any kind of tender, even the Dring as mount and tender.
Tom i believe has pictured a brass 'dog chain'/hardware snap i think for his tender. On lanyard same, adjustable friction hitch with any kind of tender, even the Dring as mount and tender.
Treespotter
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Ever tried this set up?
http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/images/upload/26968-link09_klimmershoek_3.jpg
Enjoy a 'never ever jamming the sideplates' experience.
http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/images/upload/26968-link09_klimmershoek_3.jpg
Enjoy a 'never ever jamming the sideplates' experience.
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Wolter,
Do you have the brand and specs of that plate? I like that set up and want to order one..... (from Lars??)
rgrds ronald
Do you have the brand and specs of that plate? I like that set up and want to order one..... (from Lars??)
rgrds ronald
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When I was rooting around in my gear I found my Kisa device from Kong. I think that it might have potential to be a slack tender plate.
http://tinyurl.com/7dmyh
http://tinyurl.com/7dmyh
Treespotter
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Yup, Lars will know. Probably has one in stock. Just tell him "I want that shiny RED thingie Wolter has dangling in his crotch". He will know /forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif
No sorry Ronald, just kidding, Its a Rigging plate and Lars probably has it in stock.
No sorry Ronald, just kidding, Its a Rigging plate and Lars probably has it in stock.
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Yup, Lars will know. Probably has one in stock. Just tell him 'I want that shiny RED thingie Wolter has dangling in his crotch'. He will know /forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif
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Ok, have to order some sawpants and parts towmorrow and ill put it in the request
))) (thats a great part of managing, i can order stuff, no have to order stuff....)
Yup, Lars will know. Probably has one in stock. Just tell him 'I want that shiny RED thingie Wolter has dangling in his crotch'. He will know /forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif
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Ok, have to order some sawpants and parts towmorrow and ill put it in the request
))) (thats a great part of managing, i can order stuff, no have to order stuff....)im curious about your setup. are those just stopper knots through the plate, or are they tied?
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treespotter, are you using that setup regularly now? How do you like it?
Jim
Jim
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Jason,
The rope ends are tied together.
It's a big hassle to do because you don't want to end up with a too long hitch.
Jim,
It's on my climbingline to stay. It will only come off if someone showed me a new gadged. Even if there is only 10 feet of rope dangling under the plate, the rope is passed thru the hitch and plate perfect (did not happen to me with pulleys).
The rope ends are tied together.
It's a big hassle to do because you don't want to end up with a too long hitch.
Jim,
It's on my climbingline to stay. It will only come off if someone showed me a new gadged. Even if there is only 10 feet of rope dangling under the plate, the rope is passed thru the hitch and plate perfect (did not happen to me with pulleys).
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Wolter, thanks.
That's an SRT setup, right? Do you switch to DdRT to move around in the tree?
Jim
That's an SRT setup, right? Do you switch to DdRT to move around in the tree?
Jim
TheTreeSpyder
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i don't have to retie ends with double fisherperson's noose barrel every time, even can store on dash with no carabiner, stay nicely for me; mostly Icicle in 3/8 Tenex anymore. Or French Prussik when downgraded to utility friction hitch. In climbing i bring my keychain tender over from static leg of support so it can be more right up under the hitch/ less play-more pull(?).
Another plus of finishing VT with a TK/Knut type finish for some self tending charachterisitics (especially before loaded hard by impact or rope angle type force multipliers on ascent); is that you can detatch from the hitch without it starting to come apart/braids loosening. This can make VT much friendlier to use.
Another plus of finishing VT with a TK/Knut type finish for some self tending charachterisitics (especially before loaded hard by impact or rope angle type force multipliers on ascent); is that you can detatch from the hitch without it starting to come apart/braids loosening. This can make VT much friendlier to use.
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Wolter, thanks.
That's an SRT setup, right? Do you switch to DdRT to move around in the tree?
Jim
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Sorry Jim, but I am not that familiar with the names of each system (think I made a mistake once thinking the one was the other). Can you explain SRT/DdRT for me before i can answer?
The end of my rope goes back onto the carabiner. And I use a flipline in the tree to position.
Is that SRT?
Thanks
Wolter
Wolter, thanks.
That's an SRT setup, right? Do you switch to DdRT to move around in the tree?
Jim
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Sorry Jim, but I am not that familiar with the names of each system (think I made a mistake once thinking the one was the other). Can you explain SRT/DdRT for me before i can answer?
The end of my rope goes back onto the carabiner. And I use a flipline in the tree to position.
Is that SRT?
Thanks
Wolter
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Now a picture of an SRT setup. In the picture, your VT hitch would replace the mechanical device.
One example of setting up and SRT line would be if the end of your line goes over a limb and back down to be tied off at the bottom of the tree (or some other stationary object).
Thus, you're only attachment point is to the falling side of the line using your VT hitch.
You could also tie off your line around the limb in the tree using some kind of a choking knot.
Either way, you are only attached to the falling side of the line.
Hope this helps, Wolter. Maybe someone can chime in with a better explanation.
Jim
One example of setting up and SRT line would be if the end of your line goes over a limb and back down to be tied off at the bottom of the tree (or some other stationary object).
Thus, you're only attachment point is to the falling side of the line using your VT hitch.
You could also tie off your line around the limb in the tree using some kind of a choking knot.
Either way, you are only attached to the falling side of the line.
Hope this helps, Wolter. Maybe someone can chime in with a better explanation.
Jim
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Treespotter
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Hà Jim, now I can tell you what it is. Your reply did the trick. It's a setup for Double rope. The line goes up the tree thru a frictionsaver and than down again clipped into the biner (the same one as the rigging plate is on).
I don't use the footlock technique much (I am a oldfashion treecrawler that uses a ladder most of the times). If I use the footlock technique I do it on a double rope with the double Kong ascender.
I don't use the footlock technique much (I am a oldfashion treecrawler that uses a ladder most of the times). If I use the footlock technique I do it on a double rope with the double Kong ascender.
