Until we're all safe....

Until we\'re all safe....

for those of you who may not have heard of the latest safety movement organized by the TCIA, check it out, order the stickers and the braclets and prominently display your support of the movement.

These products are completly free aside from shipping and handling, and you can order as many as you'd like.

Show your support!!
 
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I got some aftor the sent them to the worng place

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hmmmm....
I couldnt imagine how that could of happened
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My employer passed the stickers and bracelets out a few weeks ago, sticker is affixed to my hardhat.. As for the bracelet, my daughter has it.

Come home safe guys and gals! :)
 
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The following is from the November Treeworker:

Wristband Caution

November 2006

If you are wearing the green TCIA “Until We’re
All Safe” wristbands at work, first of all TW
would like to congratulate you for helping to
foster a culture of safety.

Some members have expressed concern that
the wristbands themselves create a new hazard
for the worker in the field. To be more
specific, people feared the wristband could
pose a hazard for the chipper operator if it
caught on brush.

We did some break testing of the wristbands
in the TCIA office. We found that
they break with a slow, steady pull of about
55 pounds.

If you feel that this amount of strength creates
a hazard and yet still want to wear your
wristband, TW suggests removing the wristband
and scoring the back slide slightly with
a sharp knife, or cutting partially through the
band from either edge.
 
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55lbs. is a lot for a surprise pull towards an infeed chute!

How does such a dangerous idea make its way through TCIA?
 
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They are ordering weaker bands. I think it is odd that the people that sell the bands wouldn't have caught something like that first.
 
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Brings it back to some of the original points.

Imagry in the place of reality. Glad they did the stress test, but the bigger issue might be one of just punditry and the notion of minds being used on trite pretensions instead of getting to the meat of the matter.
 
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Why not just supply free tattoo tokens for tattoo parlours for all treeworkers.
Funded by the I S A and T C I A

Tattoos reading, 'Until we're all Safe'

In fact that would be a far safer option.

Guys like MB could get one on his forehead so he could see it every morning in the mirror.

Yep, tattoos are the way to go for sure.
 
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trite pretensions.

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Sorry to fly off at a tangent, but I am an admirer of great use of the english language, and Oakwilt's combining of the word 'trite' with 'pretensions' is just sheer brilliance when you read it in the context of the sentence.

I will be using this expression in the future. Thanks Oakwilt.

Wristbands?
 
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I guess I was trying to say 'symbolism' but got carried away by my own mind, which happens often.

Safety is a serious issue, given the hazards of our work. But trying like Gruff the Drug Dog to enlighten people is like Popeye and spinach...it worked until people starting dying from E coli. Now what do they do?

I'm advocating the nasty here, hit me back with something and the process will expand us all.
 
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I don't think the point of the whole "Movement" is to have everybody jump on a fictional safety bandwagon. It would be foolish to expect a few wristbands and decals to change the sad state of accident frequency in our industry.

However, the program does have its merits. I carry a few of the decals and wristbnds around with me. In my travels, if I see unsafe treecare acts, I stop and use the bands and decals as sort of an icebreaker and I leave my message of safety behind.

I know I probably have little effect. I can only directly influence the crews under my charge, but I feel it is worth the effort. Who knows, perhaps my effort and the green piece of rubber may make someone realize there is a better, safer way and hence, save a life or stop an injury.

Tony
 
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not sure about the whole wristband thing, never understood that whole live strong wristband fad (I think it helped a lot of people raise money so it was probably a good thing).

I for one would definitely get the decals and the brochures and use them... not the wristbands though, kind of silly and what's it worth if it might pull you into a freakin chipper, wouldn't that be ironic....

jp
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I don't think the point of the whole "Movement" is to have everybody jump on a fictional safety bandwagon. It would be foolish to expect a few wristbands and decals to change the sad state of accident frequency in our industry.

However, the program does have its merits. I carry a few of the decals and wristbnds around with me. In my travels, if I see unsafe treecare acts, I stop and use the bands and decals as sort of an icebreaker and I leave my message of safety behind.

I know I probably have little effect. I can only directly influence the crews under my charge, but I feel it is worth the effort. Who knows, perhaps my effort and the green piece of rubber may make someone realize there is a better, safer way and hence, save a life or stop an injury.

Tony

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What a great idea. My issue with the whole thing was the individuals that are wearing the bracelets are those that generally have safe work practices already. I know thats how it is at the company i work for.
We were told to wear them for a month and then see what we thought about them, and if it changed our attitudes at all. We'll see
 
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Trite: Characterized by hackneyed expressions, ideas, etc
Pretension: The laying of a claim to something


Oakwilt, you were accurate in your wording. The idea that a couple of wristbands is going to affect the huge safety problem this business has is a hackneyed claim. I never liked wristbands or ribbons.


If you don't care enough about yourself to work safe, why would you care about a wristband?
 
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I'm probably being seen as the killjoy and disgruntled old fool for questioning the wristbands on an effective scale, but not unlike the myriad of bumperstickers claiming support for the troops emblazened upon our vehicles, America for the first war of it's many will not sacrifice an increase of taxes, fuel rationing, foodstuff availability or volunteer on a scrap metal drive or a visit to comfort strangers recovering in the hospitals for combat injuries when the actual actions instead of in-kind brotherhood of devices and slogans will suffice instead.

Maybe we're lacking for reality when nurtured on imagry and cliches. I really don't know. Maybe years on the Cancer Society boards where fundraising was primary and patients were the last to experience any of it has tainted me somewhat. Non-profit Foundations that work off of sympathetic pleas yet offer administration payrolls equal to the oil industry, where many of the cancer problems start? It's very easy to sell smoke detectors to a family when the picture book the salesmen uses shows charred remains, descriptions of the stench of dead burned flesh. I would think a family head already knows full well the consequence of fire and life.

It's harder to learn and "practice" the art and necessity of safety first and much, much easier to just wear a wristband that implies we're into it, but isn't it more for those who see that band on our wirst instead of us simply being more safe, for our own good?
 

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