Trees from a distance

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You got it @colb !!!

come on...I gave you the leaves. Although, the leaves on the wiki page for the one I think it is show some small lobes. this tree has no lobes. I found pictures on Woody Plants in North America that look just like this: https://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/wpina.htm (might have to pay to see...it is a great "book"...but you will always have updates without having to buy the new edition)
 
It is in Dirr...(that should just about wrap this one up - he has a short list of "t" specific epithet maples).

The drawing in the Manual of Woody Landscape Plants has a little bit of lobes. One of the pics in Encyclopedia of Trees and Shrubs, one picture is lobeless and the other has some tiny lobes.
 
I looked through the wikipedia articles. First guess would be tataricum... still a guess - the articles are variously incomplete. Only two mention a toothed margin.
 
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So what's the story behind it? Did you randomly bump into it while doing something else? It doesn't look like it would catch the eye during a drive by. Who do you think the grower is? Mail order? Local? Pretty interesting tree. If it had a higher hardiness zone number I might work on one.
 
It was in the yard of a client who had me looking at other trees. I figured out pretty quick it was a maple, but had to dig to find the species.

Apparently it is not as rare as I would have thought, never having seen it anywhere else and nobody else here seeming to know the species. Looks like North Branch Nursery, Klyn, and Acorn all have it. Hot wings seems to be a popular cultivar. Bright red seeds in the summer. Go figure, a maple being marketed because of its seeds!

(North Branch is a good quality nursery with pretty good selection in NW Ohio. They are my first call when I am ordering trees, but they don't always have what I am looking for. Klyn is a very good nursery in far NE Ohio - I haven't gotten much from them, but a couple times they had things nobody else did that clients (or I) wanted, so I've bought from them. Acorn...much closer to home than Klyn and they have great selection but root quality is not on par with the other 2.)
 
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It was in the yard of a client who had me looking at other trees. I figured out pretty quick it was a maple, but had to dig to find the species.

Apparently it is not as rare as I would have thought, never having seen it anywhere else and nobody else here seeming to know the species. Looks like North Branch Nursery, Klyn, and Acorn all have it. Hot wings seems to be a popular cultivar. Bright red seeds in the summer. Go figure, a maple being marketed because of its seeds!

(North Branch is a good quality nursery with pretty good selection in NW Ohio. They are my first call when I am ordering trees, but they don't always have what I am looking for. Klyn is a very good nursery in far NE Ohio - I haven't gotten much from them, but a couple times they had things nobody else did that clients (or I) wanted, so I've bought from them. Acorn...much closer to home than Klyn and they have great selection but root quality is not on par with the other 2.)
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That all makes sense. Thanks for sharing.

I can't find good roots in pots. I think that is an oxymoron/antonym/whatever the proper term is...
 
You know, this species isn't necessarily classified as a SYP. Its fibers are shorter than SYP, resulting in reduced strength of the milled timbers, so it is excluded from SYP lumber. That's a hint, btw.
 
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