@Reliable tree man .....keep dialing that TM in....been using TMs since 2011. I am 6' 180 lbs and a 33 waist. They fit like a used baseball glove. Molds to your shape. Rides low and the hip to lower D adjustment is where the sweet spot happens.....if done correctly you will be in nuetral when in suspension....not tipping forward or backward. This is an 880 with 48" bar. It does not get much heavier in a tree. Holds it easily no pain.