Tree Motion double bridge

SomethingWitty

SomethingWitty

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I have been running dsrt a lot recently, which means I don't use a short safety unless my positioning needs it.
I like all of that. What I don't like is that there is a single indentifyable failing point when I am working like that. The single bridge.

I don't want to tie off to my lower d ring/paws. I use them more than occasionally, and knots on them would make a jumble sometimes. I love the hole-thru design. I am going to see about getting new ones machined. (Thicker, 7075, I'm thinking about shrinking the large opening substantially and just getting side by side holes a quarter inch or so further up in the plate)
Before I shell out the coin, does anybody have any other ideas or ways that they set this up?
I want it to be effective and not messy.
Honestly, any input or experience would be appreciated.
 
@SomethingWitty; This is probably not going to help you, as you might want something different out of life. Also, I don't currently have any photos of my setup handy to show you, so words will have to suffice, for the moment.

I guess in the past I felt as though the lower "D's" pulled at me from too low a point, and tended to cut off the circulation to my legs, and the side "D's" pulled from too high a point. I thought I'd like to create a bridge that pulled me more from center. So I used a couple of really short webbing straps and ran them from the side "D's" to the lower "D's", and clipped them in place with a biner on each side. Then I added another webbing strap, longer this time, running laterally between the two biners, effectively creating a 2nd bridge that's really strong, and pulls me from a more central point than just the lower "D's" would alone.

I hope this description makes some kind of sense. I was also concerned about having a single point of failure, and my new webbing bridge alleviates some of that concern.

Tim

Edit: This setup probably fails your requirements list, as it is probably too messy for your taste, with the extra biners dangling and all.
 
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TimBr said:
@SomethingWitty; This is probably not going to help you, as you might want something different out of life. Also, I don't currently have any photos of my setup handy to show you, so words will have to suffice, for the moment.

I guess in the past I felt as though the lower "D's" pulled at me from too low a point, and tended to cut off the circulation to my legs, and the side "D's" pulled from too high a point. I thought I'd like to create a bridge that pulled me more from center. So I used a couple of really short webbing straps and ran them from the rope bridge "D's" to the lower "D's", and clipped them in place with a biner on each side. Then I added another webbing strap, longer this time, running laterally between the two biners, effectively creating a 2nd bridge that's really strong, and pulls me from a more central point than just the lower "D's" would alone.

I hope this description makes some kind of sense. I was also concerned about having a single point of failure, and my new webbing bridge alleviates some of that concern.

Tim

Edit: This setup probably fails your requirements list, as it is probably too messy for your taste, with the extra biners dangling and all.
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That is an excellent thought and I will definitely be playing with it. The knots bother me when they sit in the center of my lower d rings because that is exactly where things that I want to clip there want to be.

Edit: I'm picturing a more standard bridge material attached to screw links on the sides (still webbing) with fisherman's holding them on and running through my ABR radius ring.
 
i wanted a second bridge but also hated having a knot in the middle of my lower D's so instead i tied a knot going over the back portion of the lower D around where the leg straps slide. it wasn't in the way and left the lower D wide open. i was told in gear check at a climbing comp that it wasn't allowed but they general disapprove of anything not thought of by the manufacturer. i personally don't see any safety issue with it...
 
Pfanner man said:
i wanted a second bridge but also hated having a knot in the middle of my lower D's so instead i tied a knot going over the back portion of the lower D around where the leg straps slide. it wasn't in the way and left the lower D wide open. i was told in gear check at a climbing comp that it wasn't allowed but they general disapprove of anything not thought of by the manufacturer. i personally don't see any safety issue with it...
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That also sounds better than just being tied right in the middle of my lower ds.

Why doesn't teufelberger just sell some double bridge lower ds?
I suck at cad, and emachineshop is probably going to be asking like $350 for a pair, not counting breaking a couple just because.
 
I would LOVE to see more pictures of Kevin Bingham's double bridge set up on his Treemotion! I think he ties his scaffold/fishermans around the lower D AND the stock rope bridge...
 
808Climber said:
@Pfannerman can you post some pictures of your double bridge set up please?
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You need to keep the space between the word "Pfanner" and "man" if you hope to have Lawrence get a notification to his alerts icon. Like this. @Pfanner man. That will tell him that he has been "mentioned" in a post.

@treebing, also.

When the stuff you've typed acts like a link that you can click on, you know you've gotten the member's username correct.

Welcome to the TreeBuzz forum, 808Climber! I think you are going to like it here!

Tim
 
Mahalo (thank you) @TimBr. I am a frequent flyer at Treestuff.com. I have a Treemotion S.light and SRT set up I bought from them and I'm thinking of upgrading to the Evo, but theres only 1 review on their website so far and it isn't very detailed...Just fishing for more on the Evo
 
It's basically the same thing. The only thing they changed was the lower d's and the bridge which you can find tons of pictures of. I'm going to upgrade to it eventually.
 
Mowerr said:
It's basically the same thing. The only thing they changed was the lower d's and the bridge which you can find tons of pictures of. I'm going to upgrade to it eventually.
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"Upgrade", as in, purchase a new harness altogether? Or, upgrade the components that are different between yours and the new one?

I was wondering if there were any plans to sell the new modular D's by themselves.
 
LordFarkwad said:
"Upgrade", as in, purchase a new harness altogether? Or, upgrade the components that are different between yours and the new one?

I was wondering if there were any plans to sell the new modular D's by themselves.
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I have a 2017 tm so when I wear that out then ill just buy the new one. I would bet they don't sell replacement parts for the evo yet but they will eventually. If so then I might try just buying the parts.
 
@808Climber; It's too late for me tonight to get into that, but I'll try to do it for you soon. Veteran climbers would probably think it too busy and a kludge job. Basically I just run the shortest webbing strap I have available between my side "D's" and my lower "D's", and connect with a biner, same setup on each side. Then clip a third short webbing loop between the two biners, and use this as my second bridge. Since I can open it up, I can add any rings I want to to the webbing bridge any time the mood strikes.

This is all probably too confusing in written form, so like I say, when I get a chance I'll take the photos. It might be a day or two before I can get to it. Thanks for your patience.

Tim
 
TimBr said:
@808Climber; It's too late for me tonight to get into that, but I'll try to do it for you soon. Veteran climbers would probably think it too busy and a kludge job. Basically I just run the shortest webbing strap I have available between my side "D's" and my lower "D's", and connect with a biner, same setup on each side. Then clip a third short webbing loop between the two biners, and use this as my second bridge. Since I can open it up, I can add any rings I want to to the webbing bridge any time the mood strikes.

This is all probably too confusing in written form, so like I say, when I get a chance I'll take the photos. It might be a day or two before I can get to it. Thanks for your patience.

Tim
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I think I do, and I think under all of your kind greetings you are a ruthless gangster thug with good hobbies
 
Bob Bob said:
That's a new bridge idea! Thanks for posting this @TimBr. Looks like a rigging ring on the webbing bridge, something I haven't seen either.
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I think it is just two rings, but I've considered using one of the xrr on a bridge... I'd have to break some first. They're definitely not designed for loading in that fashion, although they are probably capable of it.

It is a new bridge idea! It's clever.
If he'd just splice some tenex, I bet he could tidy it up a little. That and a couple of ring opens.

@TimBr you are quite a problem solver.
 
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