Trango Cinch lanyard

[CalLiveOak]

Has anyone ever tried the trango cinch lanyard in the tree?
It looks nice and thought I would try it.

 

[Treeswinger]

I have a 20 footer. I like it alot when in a spreading oak or maple as I use it as a vertical yie in to overhead limbs on long limb walks. I dont use it much as a regular positioning lanyard on takedowns though. I use a 10 footer with an eye to eye much easier to adjust imo.

 

[matdand]

I used to use a eye to eye tied into a distel. It would lock up in what seemed to be the worst possible times. So a got a cinch. If I had the choice I would get a ART positioner. Its a little more expensive but ssssoooo smooth.

 

[Rookieclimber]

Had my trango since they first came out. Love it, I use the snap they are worried about but you just have to watch how much you bump it. never had it roll out on me to any degree.

 

[Jamin_Mayer]

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Had my trango since they first came out. Love it, I use the snap they are worried about but you just have to watch how much you bump it. never had it roll out on me to any degree.

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I'm with Matt. I even bought the first generation one. (No CE stamp on it). I quickly purchased a 2nd generation one when they shortly came out with it...

It is a great tool for a lanyard.

 

[BayouClimber]

got mine about a month ago 15 footer, moved up from a michoacan on safety blue. i love it today is the first time i used it on a removal. wish they made it for the left hand side of your body to get the lever on the outside.... but besides that 2 thumbs up

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[matdand]

I was wondering if most of you use the handle? I just use the back part to unload the line. Is this clear?

 

[Ron]

I don't know how significant this is, but from the manufacturer:

"For use on CE/UIAA dynamic climbing ropes only. Optimum rope size is 9.4 - 11mm"

Looks like for tree work, it has two strikes against it, dynamic rope and 11mm (7/16").

I guess maybe that's ok though????

 

[RogerM]

matdand, what cordage did you use that caused your distel to bind? I use beeline on 16strand, no binding. when I used tenex, I had binding issues. just curious?

 

[matdand]

I used same thing as you. 8mm beeline on XTC fire (16 strand). It wouldnt happen often, but whne it did, it was a pain. I just like the fact that a mechanical device is constant. You dont have to worry about it being too tight.

 

[matdand]

Ron, I hadnt noticed that anywhere. Funny, I know a few guys who use it. Plus Sherill sells it for this purpose so I guess it must be ok.

 

[NickfromWI]

I'm partial to this setup: http://www.newtribe.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=47&products_id=431

love
nick

 

[matdand]

Earthworm?

 

[familytree]

girth worm? What?

mwahahahahahahaha

 

[Ron]

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Ron, I hadnt noticed that anywhere. Funny, I know a few guys who use it. Plus Sherill sells it for this purpose so I guess it must be ok.

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It may be that the manufacturer is addressing belaying/fall protection more than climbing or lanyard use. Hence, I would think they want to make it clear for fall protection, as rock climbers frequently experience, that dynamic rope is used.

Perhaps enough people have used it in climbing with static rope etc., to determine that it is safe in a climbing/lanyard application. Seems like it would be really good for RADS IF the rope size, 1/2" is ok.

 

[Chris_Cowell]

Ron

There has been dynamic testing comparing low stretch and dynamic ropes in Cinch Lanyards. This has been referred to on several tree care forums including TB.

The results show clearly that the use of dynamic rope is advisable. The 'falls' tested were 1m and 2m drops with a 100kg steel test mass. Rope lengths were relatively short. The higher peak forces resulting from a fall arrested by low stretch rope can cause the Cinch to fail. The ropes used in our tests were Edelrid Powerstatic 11mm EN1891A (low stretch) and Mammut Flex 11mm EN892 (dynamic). I have to point out that sample sizes were small.....due to costs.

For reference, I use Mammut Supersafe 10.2mm in conjunction with my cinch.

Chris

 

[Ron]

Chris,

Any idea how the characteristics of the Cinch and Grigri compare? I.e. the Grigri was designed as a belay device and was later adapted to climbing. That infers the Grigri should also bd used with dynamic rope, but it is now common practice to use the Grigri with static rope in a RADS climbing system.

I wonder if the Cinch could be used in the same way the Grigri is?

 

[Rookieclimber]

cinch was also a rock climbing device adapted to trees. the only real difference is the size. another variation in the ID by petzl, basically a grigri but with an emergency panic stop built in. meaning if you pull too far and start going to fast and end up pulling harder, it will stop instead of going faster. The cinch does not have such braking device.

As to the used int he RADS in looking at the system in pictures it does not appear to be a problem. Then again I do not use RADS

 

[Rookieclimber]

Also besides the size is the ropes that are able to be used in the device itself

 

[CalLiveOak]

I think i will try it, and im gettin a 15 foot lanyard too. Ive been using a ten footer and sometimes, thats just not enough.