Today's Job

Oh, It looked so nice from the pics. Mark, do me a favor and take a peek at my post under awakenings from today. I know you do a lot of work with big equipment. I would love your input on my thread. Thanks.
 
I got a call from an out of state outfit, wanting to schedule me to offload and set a 9K backup generator at a Home Depot store about 50 miles away. Unable to get any heads up about access from the guy (he's in Connecticut), I jumped in the (homebuilt) plane and got this shot. See that concrete slab, at the rear center of the building? THAT's where it sets, RIGHT UNDER THOSE BIG POWERLINES! The utility will be there, says I can get within 10' of an energized conductor if I have to. He also mentioned they could wrap a line if required, but would charge for that (not me, that's for sure, I thought that was free), it will be interesting to see how it works out.
 

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I got a call from an out of state outfit, wanting to schedule me to offload and set a 9K backup generator at a Home Depot store about 50 miles away. Unable to get any heads up about access from the guy (he's in Connecticut), I jumped in the (homebuilt) plane and got this shot. See that concrete slab, at the rear center of the building? THAT's where it sets, RIGHT UNDER THOSE BIG POWERLINES! The utility will be there, says I can get within 10' of an energized conductor if I have to. He also mentioned they could wrap a line if required, but would charge for that (not me, that's for sure, I thought that was free), it will be interesting to see how it works out.
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should have no problem getting under those wires. what could it weigh 700#
 
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...set a 9K backup generator...
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Do you mean a 9Kv generator, in which case dbl612 is probably right, it only weights 700#? Or did you mean a 9K# generator, which of course weighs, um, 9000#? Cause if it's only 700#, why not set it with a forklift and avoid the powerline issues?
 
BIG generator, not a Briggs and Stratton powered one but CAT. Not sure on kilowatt output, but it weighs 9,200 lbs. I'm thinking if I can position the crane just right, I can do it with a low enough boom angle while still staying more then 10' from the wires. I'm not sure how high they are, hard to tell from that picture. The utility guy said 45', that's great if so. I've found it's better to be a pessimist in a deal like this, I'd rather be happily surprised then unexpectedly bummed out! I never trust what others tell me what things weigh, until I look at my LMI, if it's LESS then what they said, they can then do no wrong and it makes my day. A bigger crane would more capacity at low angles would be nice, but I bet the little 22101S gets it done, safely, I'll report back afterwards.
 
OK, that's how I was reading it (9000 pounds), but then when dbl612 said "what could it weigh 700#" I realized maybe you were talking about a Briggs powered 9000 watt unit. I've read enough of your posts to know you will, but I'll still say it: Be safe! Let us know how it goes.
 
courier guy, just to mention- if someone wants you to quote setting something sight unseen, ask them to email the cut sheets on the item. they usually show weights, sizes, location and demensios of pick points,and in the case of generators the cg of the item. makes it easier to make sure you have the right rigging for the job with you.
 
I got all of that, along with no mention of the power lines! No CG of the load though, but after lifting it off the trailer (using the load chart for fully retracted outriggers due to the narrow site, reaching over the end of the trailer put me out of my chart, so I got nice and close sideways) the second time we picked it we nailed the cg/balance. Note the shackle holes are different heights, they provided the means to pick and set it level.

I stopped 15' away from the lines (after being told the day earlier by the utility I could go within 10') when it became evident I would need to make the call and get them wrapped. 45 minutes later with one line guy on the ground and the other in the bucket, so two spotters, I ended up 4' from the nearest conductor. They charged the job's contractor (not me!) $100.00, which he was happy to pay. Actually I am paying it for him but adding it on my bill. It's rare for me to work around many power lines, much less this close, I felt much better having the moral support of the two lineman as I had plans for the rest of the day and the crane is sold! That lifting beam I have (labeled for capacity, I also have a aluminum plate on it and I etch in that it's inspected and good to go every 6 months) is real handy for this type of work. Another job that the little 22101S did just fine, better in some ways then a bigger crane due to the tight site, adding to my waffling on what size to get next! 1 hr drive there, 1 back, about 2 hrs on site. 2-24 010.webp 2-24 011.webp
 

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buy the bigger crane. you need every bit of adaptability when doing taxi work especially when you get into situations with short jacking, etc. width of the crane is the same and there is not much difference in the retracted boom dimension is there? you almost always can do a little job with a bigger crane but not the other way around. glad the job worked out well for you, put your big boy pants on. did that generator come from kinsley equipment in htfd, ct.?
 
No, and that big boy pants comment made me spill my coffee, thanks I guess!

Looking at the charts of both, there would have been no advantage with the 30 ton Manitex over the 22, on THIS job. Then again, the 30 could have done it as easy also, so I get your point. But tomorrow I am looking at a job site setting some hollow core concrete floor panels, and something was mentioned about it not being back filled yet.... I may have to take a pass on it but for sure will check to see if the 30 ton could have done it. Nothing said about power lines.....
 
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Anybody else besides you? Just curious. I just don't see it and I am a way ole tree/crane guy. Emphasis on TREE.
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I do treevet.
Anytime I see a crane anywhere I'm always on the lookout to see what's getting hoisted. I never did that before I got into tree work.
Of course, whoever's riding with me at the time gets to hear me say how trees are harder to deal with because the crane op doesn't know the balance point or the weight until we cut it free. :)
 
Well let me see what can we gain from rockclimbing. It's not tree work.

It is great to see posts of just crane work. a lot of the same process for planning goes into it. Although not picking the same item The whole process of preplanning the pic can often be quite the same

In this case working near the wires is quite relative tree work
 
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