Tail tricks

[Mitch Hoy]

What are your favorite ways to utilize the tail of your rope? Tricks for tail management?
Lately, I have been tying a monkeys fist, and sending my tail over a crotch well overhead, and base anchoring it in the tree. I then switch my system to it, hit my objectives, and come back to the base tie. Reconnect to the other end of the system, take the aerial base tie out, and move on to the next. Very useful for decurrent trees with vertical structure.
I have also used this trick to haul a pulley up for a quick FFC light duty rig point, using a butterfly for a midline choke.

 

[Stihl my heart]

FFC?


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[Brocky]

Floating False Crotch?

 

[Jonny]

FFC?


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Floating False Crotch

 

[climbstihl]

I use the tail with a blakes hitch if I need a third attachment point. I could use a hitch and pulley too, then I can use it as a lanyard too.

 

[Greg_L]

There are certain retrievable redirects that involve releasing with the pull of your tail, but I try to not have too much tail below me (ie. not the entire hank) to ease passing it through limbs, and I prefer to always have my tail capable of getting me all the way down, so I haven't explored it much.

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[Z'sTrees]

As far as management goes, I will often set up a canopy anchor with just enough rope to hit the dirt wherever I might be, then take the retrieval end and coil it up at the tie in point or wherever I am going to make my highest cut. Keeps everything out of the way and cuts down on all the tail you have to manage as you work the tree.
Another trick is to toss a monkeys fist into and adjacent tree and have a coworker toe it off at the base, then you can transfer over.

 

[rope-a-dope]

Someone put up the draggin' tail a while back. Its super handy for positioning or advancing in poor rope angles. Just a hitch and biner/micro pulley that rides below your regular multicender. Throw it over stuff (on a bight) and it's like an M system.

 

[Greg_L]

Someone put up the draggin' tail a while back. Its super handy for positioning or advancing in poor rope angles. Just a hitch and biner/micro pulley that rides below your regular multicender. Throw it over stuff (on a bight) and it's like an M system.

THAT is cool. That's like using a DMM Captain for limb walk stabilizing, but a little more quickly deployable.

 

[Mitch Hoy]

As far as management goes, I will often set up a canopy anchor with just enough rope to hit the dirt wherever I might be, then take the retrieval end and coil it up at the tie in point or wherever I am going to make my highest cut. Keeps everything out of the way and cuts down on all the tail you have to manage as you work the tree.
Another trick is to toss a monkeys fist into and adjacent tree and have a coworker toe it off at the base, then you can transfer over.

I just tried a transfer like that for the first time the other day, man it is a slick trick! Usually I would use a hook, or boomerang the throwball/line I keep in my tool pouch, but when descending on another tree, zipping down the tail is the way to go! Quick, easy, and fun.

 

[jmcscrap]

Someone put up the draggin' tail a while back. Its super handy for positioning or advancing in poor rope angles. Just a hitch and biner/micro pulley that rides below your regular multicender. Throw it over stuff (on a bight) and it's like an M system.

What thread was this in? Sounds interesting but can not picture it....

 

[Jan_]

Very boring and simple: My Water bottle and other gear I might need but dont want to carry up get tied to my tail end. It also functions as a 2nd climbing rope when I dont have enough attachment points with my lanyard.

 

[rope-a-dope]

What thread was this in? Sounds interesting but can not picture it....

I searched a whole bunch but couldn't find the pic I learned it ffrom. But I can try to put up an example for ya! Can be really handy, just like a little bight belay to control a swing back towards the tie in point, but with a hitch.

 

[rope-a-dope]

The plain hitch can also just ride along below your main system (with the slack pulled out, not it use) up and down just fine

 

[jmcscrap]

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The plain hitch can also just ride along below your main system (with the slack pulled out, not it use) up and down just fine

Thanks! That looks great.

 

[rope-a-dope]

Enjoy! I normally dont climb with extra stuff, but a hitch and pulley and biner is pretty basic. Thimble Prussik is perfect, simple. Nifty for shifting around up high, top to top hopping. Good protection at flat rope angles.

 

[Mitch Hoy]

I also use my tail as an MRT system to position and advance. Sometimes I bomb out on the second/tail system when performing a removal. My assistant’s name is Kayli . She’s the real magic.
Anywho, I definitely need to try this tie-under system. It makes a lot of sense to me: not having to drag tail, just a couple points of gear, you can still theoretically bomb out. I just worry about the four bites on the tree for friction.

 

[Mowerr]

so what can she do?

 

[evo]

For srt I will set up a Ddrt system on the tail or use a Blake’s.

Rarely light lowering or as replacement for a sling to tie a limb off and dice it up.

A monkey fist to transfer between leaders.

After a epic limb walk, in place of a long lanyard to ease the walk back to the trunk.

Sometimes have a groundie belay the tail as a swing check if I miss my target.

 

[snunyabizness]

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The plain hitch can also just ride along below your main system (with the slack pulled out, not it use) up and down just fine

here's an elegant variation of the Draggin Tail but abandoning the bight and using a quick munter hitch in place of the prusik&pulley

kev on Instagram: "Using munter to drag draggin tail, Using a slipknot to lock, At the end... a conversation on the headset w the broski about the dmm " perfect o " carabiners. I don't recommend using draggin tail as a second connection for chainsaw

205 likes, 2 comments - kev_haggard_ on May 27, 2022: "Using munter to drag draggin tail, Using a slipknot to lock, At the end... a conversation on the headset w the broski about the dmm " perfect o " carabiners. I don't recommend using draggin tail as a second connection for chainsaw...

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