Subbing equipment

TCtreeswinger

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What do you usually charge for subbing your rig? I have a chuck n duck and 1 ton dump and a company I've worked for wants me to sub out for them. I have a rough estimate of what I wamt, but who does the small biz/contract thing and what do you usually charge? Obviously it's per market just looking for input. Thanks for any answers you choose to provide!
 
If it's someone I sub back and forth with (and like) I usually cut them some slack and we work it out in the end to what's fair for both parties.
If it's someone I don't work with much or at all I'm normally right at full hourly maybe slightly lower so they can make a little money too. My biggest problem is if I come in too low the are constantly calling me to come chip/haul and my work suffers. So it's a balancing act.
Good luck
 
Guy I work with charges $100/hr for a 15" chipper and a 16' chip dump. That includes him being there and any of his workers bring an additional $20/hr per man. I charge $40/hr for my 1-ton dump with a ten foot box. Time for me to get a new chipper. I got rid of the abused clunker I had.
 
Where do you live coal?
Levi, I'm in Duanseburg area of NY. All the above pricing includes fuel costs. Diesel here is currently hugging $2.39/gal. You still healing? I'm taking it easy today. Just spent two days ripping off a roof and all the rafters to boot. Hands a little swollen but I got about 80% of my strength back already.
 
I'm healing okay, thanks for asking.

$40 an hour sounds low, for my area at least.
Your probably right. $40 is what I charge people I know and work with regularly. That's just for the dump. So If I work 8hrs and the truck is used for 6hrs I get $200-300 (depending on if I climb or stay on the ground) and $240 for the truck. To me that's a decent days pay, cash even. You think I should charge more for the truck? Stranger rate is $65/hr.
 
Oh no, I thought you were getting $40 for you AND your truck. That sounds good. $200-$300 is on the low end for subs around here, the top guys get $400+.

There are some guys who do truck+chipper+climber. Mostly they charge $600+.

Cash is king!
 
just FYI, I charge $300 minimum, usually $350-$375 for me to show up in an '89 Oldsmobile with my climbing gear and a 201, maybe a 1/2" rigging line, maybe some 1/2" rigging gear, and maaaaybe a 50cc saw. I'm in Philly, a tight, mature, heavy volume market, but still, don't sell yourself short. Trucks and chippers are hella expensive, and presto-chango you're a tree company is a huge service to the customer.

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As mentioned I am shopping for a 75' (preferably rear mounted) elevator bucket truck. What is a fair/ reasonable rate for the truck, saw or two, myself? Either a daily 8-9 hr or by the hour rate.
 
Which truck? The dump, or the elevator? PS still haven't heard anything about an elevator available yet, but they got 55' trucks out tha wazoo
 
Which truck? The dump, or the elevator? PS still haven't heard anything about an elevator available yet, but they got 55' trucks out tha wazoo
The elevator. I hear ya on the 55'rs. They're everywhere and usually parked right next to the 60'ers. Thanks for looking bro. I found an 08 international with an 11' chip box. Not looking for a chip box version and it's a little more than I want to spend at 69k. Then again, winters coming and I want to work it this season.
 
The only person I "sub" the equipment out to is my climber. When he is doing his own thing on the side he pays me $100/hour for equipment, $20 per hour per additional crew member, and for every hour I'm there he owes me equal number of hours of work.
So far it has worked out well.
 
I have my own small company and have a full setup. Myself as a climber, all rigging gear needed, a arbor trolley, a GMC 3500 chip truck and Carlton 2012 chipper. When I sub I am currently at $450 for a 7-8 hour day. I'm in western North Carolina.
Thats a good days pay but it seems to fall a little short with all the equipment you bring to the job. Lot of wear-n-tear. Hours add up quick.
 
Thats a good days pay but it seems to fall a little short with all the equipment you bring to the job. Lot of wear-n-tear. Hours add up quick.
You know... I was kind of wondering if that seemed a little low. A friend of mine told me that it was as well. It just seems like where I am it's really hard to price things as they should be. We have so much competition within our small area it's seriously ridiculous. If you have any advice I welcome it friend. And I guess I should add, I'm friends with most of the guys I sub with at the moment. They all have their own small company's as well. So I try to be very considerate of their needs as well. I don't have as much overhead and as many life responsibilities as some of my buds. (Kids, big mortgage, new car payments) So, I try to be fair. Meaning, they need more income, so I try and make sure they get it.
 
A good days pay takes care of the bills and puts food on the table .... better than nothing. But, it doesn't service the chipper and truck or pay for break downs. The lower figure you charge kinda locks you in that pay scale. A higher rate will give you the option of a new truck payment if you want or need one. I hear what your saying about the cut throat competition. If you have insurance that should put you above their rates regardless.
 

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