steel core flip lines?

[Phil]

Does anybody use a steel core flip line all the time? The guys were i am at use them (with microcenders) for everything and it seems the covering gets worn out very fast. Then once the core is damaged the microdender no longer works on the exposed steel core and the remaining sheath floats and scrunches on the core.

I use an 8-10' section of 11mm dragonfly for my flip line...i used to use firefly climbing line for the visible contrast between the two ropes but then i got the poison hi-vi and now both are green i think i'll have to swap the flip for a section of firefly now.

 

[Colin]

In thirty years I've never used one.

 

[Phil]

the only time i have ever wanted to use one was when pruning palms...the extra stiffness makes it easier to flip over the old boots... they make it almost impossible to flip an 11mm line...in which case i go get the bucket and cram it in to where i can reach the palms, but thats a different story for another thread

 

[highclimber]

The thing works great, better than nylon or old manilla . I use a 12 ft. model.

 

[JesseHuffman]

I agree..its a palm thing.
I like them for bigger removals too.
peace

 

[sean_freeman]

Got one, very rarely use it...daily use long rope lanyard 15'

 

[Blinky]

Used one one my very first climb, been using rope ever since though.

 

[Kevin]

I use steel core all the time.
I protect it from wear with plastic tree guard.

 

[speelyei]

only on big trees. I have a 20' steel core flip line. I have come to hate what it represents, and putting it on the truck fills me with dread.

 

[Phil]

oh come on...its not work...its fun.....unless your the guy climbing the gaint tree for 6 hours...then the fun stops after the first 30 minutes. I love the feeling when its all done though...makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

 

[JordanCorbeil]

Always. Mine is shackled to my saddle.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Why do you use a steel core?

Over the years I've heard of anecdotal stories about people doing 'cut tests' using a chainsaw. But nothing official or published. From all of the discussions I have never heard that there is a great deal more protection against chainsaw cuts.

 

[JesseHuffman]

Well Tom.....unless you are wreckless like I was in my "Evil Jesse" days
I have about 10 old flip lines in my shed with the rope cut through to the cable....It was a palm thing.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Jesse,

Do/did you use a chainsaw for palm whacking?

While talking with one of my colleagues about steel cores we agree, maybe wrongly, that it would be better to teach a safer procedure than counting on a steelcore for protection.

It's seemed to me that a better way to protect from cutting would be to use chain inside of hose or tubing of some sort.

 

[JesseHuffman]

sometimes a big saw for a heavy beard.
There is No excuse for nicking a flipline but that was only one of many bad practices I used to partake in daily.
Im so glad im here
peace and love
Jesse

 

[RDMOTT]

1/4" stainless steel core covered by 5/8" three strand is what I use. I had a swivel snap attached (pressed on)at the wire rope supply store and a swage button pressed on the other end. I used 25 feet of the three strand to cover 22 feet of stainless cable. It flips really easily and gives me great peace of mind. I doubt that you could cut through it without realising in time that you were cutting it unlike a non steel core flip.

 

[Smallwood]

I use one on pines. There always seems to be a bit of blind cutting as you work around the whorls and it's just a little more safety. Otherwise, unless I'm flipping around some stuff on an odd shaped trunk it stays on the ground. Too awkward for my tastes.
Phil

 

[Bodean]

I climb alot of Pine, Redwood, Fir etc, Thicker bark
and lots of spurring.

The steel core flip lines flip better, than rope.
A steel core feels more assuring when false crotching larger logs with larger saws.

Any Big removal and I use a steel core.

Prunings and rec. climbs I use a rope flipline, Hi Vee with the VT setup.

 

[familytree]

steel core lanyards are great, they flip really well and you DEFINATLY have more protection than a regular rope lanyard. although you should proably avoid cutting your rope (i dont know why, for some reason i think it isnt safe) if it does happen your not going to be able to cut through the steel, unless you try for at least a couple of minuets, and at that point your probably trying to kill yourself and i can think of a much better way to go.

rope lanyards are nice and light, awesome to use when pruning and when your near electric lines, i use a microcender as well, i love how easy it is to adjust, a lot of people dont like them, personal choice i guess, hope this helped, enjoy

ps, tom, isnt it an ansi regulation to use a steel lanyard when operating a chainsaw unless in the presence of an electical hazard? i could swear i read it in sherrills magazine

 

[JordanCorbeil]

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In thirty years I've never used one.

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You ever nick a flip line, and or lanyard, in that time?