SRT POLL

I WEEP openly admiration and apprecitaion for your can-do approach to SRT and it's limitless possibilities ever changing and widening before our very eyes. holding the tools in our hands, low stretch lines and the crisp bite of the ascenders teeth in the crisp fall air. can you feel it? the electric hum of the line like a guitar string tightened and thrumming with excitement of what's to come. Weight the handled ascender and it's custom bar tacked stirrup, it is palpable, WORK IS BEGINNING.
Training, the body, the mind, the straight plumb bob line of SRT guiding the way to the Canopy and beyond.
SRT and it's various permutations have gripped the psyche of my compatriots the world over, gliding like a spider up a silken thread.
I hold my hands before me as if in prayer, then wave them apart holding my bare palms toward you.... LOOK! Do you see it? Like a cloud of glitter or doves released, the possibilities hang in the air before us. Catch one, like a butterfly lighting upon an outstretched finger:
SRT removal applications: the idea can be refined, the best ideas are still being refined. Protect the line from accidents....
SRT Access: Like the tree, do the most with the least, no wasted energies....
SRT Pruning: Ahh, here now like a Pollack the ideas are many and confused and run together... don't fight the current, swim with it! It's a Tao thing! I am at the tip, light cuts and crown reduction, save a terminal bud in the breast pocket and propogate anew, an arboretum atop a Brick apartment building, my mind swirls with the new colors of rope available.
I vote yes.


feel that light wind on your back, like the reassuring pressure of an old friends hand on your shoulder? It's the winds of change, and SRT rides these winds, blowing the meme of an easier, safer workday hither and yon...
 
To all SRT heads!

I know for a fact that there are certain trees I have climbed recently with SRT that no one could master in a Ddrt situation. I blew three lines in from the ground and initiated my spiderweb, from there, it was butter! Now way one could achieve the same goal Ddrt in the time that it took, or as smooth as SRT!This is the new generation of tree climbing if you have the mindframe to compensate it!


X-man O.G. Still Here climbing SRT!
 
Only when its the most convenient, advantageous and swift method. Sometimes it is.
Sometimes I climb SRT simply because I'm in the mood, or trying out a new piece.
Knowing and being fluent in all three rope techniques is far more important than knowing SRT. It's a piece of the pie, but not the pie itself.

At least Petzl doesn't look at us with such disdain, 'DdRT, spit, spit' (with a French accent).
 
If the scenario was a tree removal and I was wearing hooks, it would take a very unusual set of circumstances for me to use SRT.

I would use SRT in the event of an unusally high crown with no limbs below 60', or if there was some other peculiar aspect to the job that made SRT the clear choice. An example that comes to mind... I had to remove ivy from some 200' Douglas firs once. The first limbs were at 70', and the ivy was 6"dbh. I used SRT to climb past all that horrible brushy ivy and access a good tie in spot at about 90'. Good times.

I haven't had any experiences that made think I wanted to employ SRT as my "preferred" technique 100% of the time.
 
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If the scenario was a tree removal and I was wearing hooks, it would take a very unusual set of circumstances for me to use SRT.

I would use SRT in the event of an unusally high crown with no limbs below 60', or if there was some other peculiar aspect to the job that made SRT the clear choice. An example that comes to mind... I had to remove ivy from some 200' Douglas firs once. The first limbs were at 70', and the ivy was 6"dbh. I used SRT to climb past all that horrible brushy ivy and access a good tie in spot at about 90'. Good times.

I haven't had any experiences that made think I wanted to employ SRT as my "preferred" technique 100% of the time.

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Speelyei, I am not arguing with you here, just saying that I can find it useful.

I use SRT all the time with removals on hooks, though the benefits may be minimal at times (no moving twice the amount of rope), there are other times where is saves a bit of effort here and there, which can add up. If I have to knock out limb ends on the large low limbs of conifers, I can shoot a line in, without needing to isolate the way I would for DdRT. Sometimes, I'll use a leather cambium saver at the crotch. Faster than installing a Ring and Ring Friction Saver. I will typically use a GriGri for this , or could use a friction hitch a la F8 systems. I can pretty easily tend my own slack and walk up the tree if it has a bit of lean to it, rather than flipping up the tree, which i would say is easier and more natural on the body, as well as faster, especially if there are dead stubs/ branches that I don't want to/ can't stop to remove allowing my flipline to keep going up, unimpeded.

If I'm flipping up a tree, I can keep my rope bag clipped to the left side of my harness (climb saw on right for balance), with a choked off running bowline around the trunk. If I have to lower down for a hanger or to rig in the middle of a long branch, its less rope to restack.

I tie the running bowline with a carabiner terminating the end of my rope, which is clipped in to the bowline to back up the bowline. If I need to ALT (alternating lanyard technique) my way past some branches (maybe needing to hang a block or get a higher TIP to limb walk, I can quickly switch to DdRT/ climbline-lanyard.

This provided the fall arrest that using an adjustable Ring and Ring type friction saver would, but its faster and easier to change to ALT for a few whorls.

With a tech cord prussic on the climbline, I could throw the 'biner around the trunk and clip into the prussic loop without side-loading the biner, and continue to work SRT to limbwalk (again, could be done DdRT).

While chunking down the trunk, a running bowline with a long tail allows you to gain many of the advantages of the DdRT Adjustable False Crotch, such as lowering down (cutting your facecut for the next log while supported overhead, as some like to do with bigger saws) and then pulling the tail to release the choke, dropping the running bowline down to your next work location. This is something that you can't do DdRT without an AFC. This also means that my body/ harness is not part of the loop that encircles the tree in the event of it splitting.


Maybe there are more useful scenarios for SRT for trees we deal with.




As many have said, use the best application of different techniques, not one technique that is the "best".
 
huh, that's a lot to chew on all at once...

I guess I'd just have to see it in person. If it looked faster, easier, simpler, and safer, than of course I'd use it.
 
yes, srt on removals with spurs is way slick. No need for adjustible cambium savers. easy retrieval, always tied in twice. Only one line to deal with. etc. Monkey tail climbing.
 
Fellow Gear Heads,

I must say that it really sucks that many of you had the opportunity to use a Unicender years before myself! Tom! Thank you so much for what you have done for me, I will never be able to repay you!!! The Uni rocks! The only bad thing I can say is it would be better with a positioning lock off button or device/ pin. However, a slipnot does work just in case. Can we work on that perhaps? The Uni is Money!Worth every cent of the tree fifty!!!!

Loving SRT climbing even thanks to the Uni(Mr. Cat Wrangler)! X-man O.G.
 
I have been using SRT since I started climbing full time about 10 years ago. I started climbing using an I'd and rock climbing rope and used that until I went to Arbormaster and learned about some new techniques.

I use SRT for ascent quite often, descent on certain trees, and working on rare occasions.

Like Crazy Jimmy said it is all about using the right technique for every situation. I used to be hung up on SRT being the best way for every situation but now I'm much more open to using all types of tools and techniques depending on the tree, job type, and production environment.
 
Genius Ryan,we all got to learn not to be bias or fad jumpers when it comes to tree climbing.Some guys will not srt some guys will not drt, they are so relevant and practical in the right situations.
 
srt for ascent, working,and decent, its a system that will rarly get your rope stuck, uses less energy, and work well for high access trees that are hard to isolate one limb, now all i need to invest in is a uni-acender, epically now that they came down in price
 
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