Simple SRT set up?

TC

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Can someone please post me a pic or send me in the general direction of a thread which has pics of a simple SRT/Frog setup?

I currently use 2 Petzl ascenders (right and left) incorporating 3 slings to create a very basic and un-ergonomic SRT setup, decided to get organised with a decent setup so if anyone can help that'd be cool.

Thanks

(No Unicender or Art products please!)





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ask Moss, he has a great set up.

I use a RH ascender with a footloop attached to my left foot.

foot ascender on my right foot and a croll attached to my Sequoia SRT saddle.

pretty simple and real fast.
 
a lot off kong the first seconds....
I'm not keen off using knots in SRT climbing you better use a croll or petzl traxion for this srt setup.

but nice vid, don't take my comments personal.
it's better to understand the whole picture and know wich tools to use in what situation. And knots and SRT are a dangerous combination.

climb safe
wouter
 
I know, I've allready seen that but the purpose off knots is not suited for SRT usage....that you can make this work is understandable but I prefer to use te proper tools that are required for every single aspect off our daily treework.

So in my opinion you better use SRT gear for SRT climbing and DRT gear for DRT climbing ;-)

in that way you can only blame yourself when things go wrong ;-)

climb safe
wouter
 
what makes you say that hitches and SRT are not a good combination. Your crazy!, People have been climbing SRT with hitches since rope was invented. I am fairly sure that Hitches and SRT came well before dDRT and hitches. There have been several studies and break tests done with hitches and SRT and I have not seen anything from those results or my own experience to find that there is anything abnormally dangerous about it if you use a well tied hitch.

Climbing with a footlock cord is essentially SRT with a hitch and that is a sanctioned event at climbing comps.


I think there is a lot of misconceptions about SRT. One of them that it is a new technique that requires lots of gear. SRT means Single Rope Technique. It is not new, it is an ancient practice. It is THE normal way to use rope for access. Mechanical Ascenders on the other hand ARE recent inventions that can help in SRT climbing but they are not neccesary. There still remains far more unanswered questions regarding the safety of ascenders than hitches. I hear a lot more stories about how ascenders can shred ropes in a fall, come off the line in inopportune times and are capable of malfunction due to the higher number of moving parts. I use ascenders but remain wary of them. Most ascenders are not rated to take a fall whereas a hitch actually provides some shock absorption in a fall because it will slip at a high load. There are lots of advantages to well tied hitches and they are proven safe, and effective.

Also, for what its worth, This video was taken before The Kong issue became understood. You will not see any of that on my harness today. I have replaced the robot with a rope wrench, and the ascender with a CMI. SRT Does not need to be complicated or expensive.
 
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My srt ascent is footlocking! Thats all knots. My descent is on a hitch with a Robot, or Rope Wrench. I feel way safer on knots then any kind of ascender. I've personally seen them fail. Show me one ascender that is rated for life support! A knot is!
 
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...People have been climbing SRT with hitches since rope was invented. I am fairly sure that Hitches and SRT came well before dDRT and hitches. ...

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Agree with Kevin! Started climbing on SRT with Prusiks on laid rope back in the '60's 'cause that's all there was (at least, all I could afford) ... worked fine! Using mechanicals & D-braid now but, still use SRT+hitch for double-crotching. Really looking forward to testing Kevin's mid-line RopeWrench!!!
 
Here is mine, ( dont get caught up with the lack of hitch above the hand ascender and no biener in the hand ascender. I think that subject has been beat to deathg here already.
 

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Climbing with a footlock cord is essentially SRT with a hitch and that is a sanctioned event at climbing comps.

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Im lost, help me out on this one.
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you guys only talk SRT in a ascending way. The techniques that used to be don't make them automaticly better then modern techniques.
Using mechanical devices for SRT will help efficienty during installation and removal. The hardware will do it's job under any weathercondition and grips every time like hell. A knot on single rope will slide down when raining or freezing. If you walk one straight way up the knot has to be wide open to let the rope run free and will have to be handled before putting weight in it.

With mechanical devices you can easily back up (go down) a bit. Using a knot will make this difficult and you'll have to setup a extra device like a ropewrench..

If you only look at the costs.....don't do that. Use and buy what ever is the best protection and safest way to climb on a daily base.

I'm not saying that working SRT with knots is impossible I saying it is more likely that this can cause failure to the climber and it's system especially when he doesn't understand what he is doing out there and wich gear is suited for the job.

climb safe
wouter
 
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The hardware will do it's job under any weathercondition and grips every time like hell. A knot on single rope will slide down when raining or freezing.

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I don't agree, at least on the theroetical side. Cames accenders (jumars, accenders, crolls etc) are known to not bite on frozen/icy ropes, as the teeth get clogged up with ice. (reports from several bigwall expeditions) Luckkely we usually get to dry our ropes every night, so this isn't a big issue in treework.

I've also experienced a grigri not locking on iceglazed rope.

But I do agree using hardware eases setup and usually is more effektive (but also costs more)
 

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