I know what you mean Riggs. I wasn't going to add to the thread either, but when Reg posted those nice pictures.... I thought, hmmm, it's cool to look at some new pictures, so I thought it might be a good thing. No disrespect taken I hope. I have a LOT of nasty tree pictures from this year. Made me think a bit. I got so bored with regular trees, so I have been seeking out challenging situations on purpose these last 3 or so years. Another company in my area has been passing them my way after he learned I like that stuff. Now I'm wondering if it is a good idea. I do take a "scary" tree and pick a plan that makes it not scary. It does make the day fun.