Savages

Tree-Taylor · Feb 25, 2018

I hadn't seen this one before.

treebing · Feb 26, 2018

that was a pretty rough descent there at the end.

rico · Feb 26, 2018

Very cool vid. Thanks for sharing.

Climbing with just a flipline. No Kask Super Plasma’s, eye protection, Arbor Tech chainsaw pants, Treemotion’s, or Akimbo’s. Geez, how the heck did these guys survive for more than a few hours?

FreeFallin · Feb 26, 2018

For some reason I picture @rico shaving with an axe... might just be my perception.

JD3000 · Feb 27, 2018

Nah... @rico is more the unshaven, night vision goggles, throwing axes at things that move kinda dude.

Cliff_Towle · Feb 27, 2018

Four rounds in 54 seconds!

rope-a-dope · Feb 27, 2018

Log jam in the chipper? Here's some dynamite.

treewill · Feb 28, 2018

rico said:
Geez, how the heck did these guys survive for more than a few hours?

Short answer: many of them didn't!

If you're interested, have a look at the book 'More Deadly than War'. It's a fascinating read about the history of the PNW logging industry: https://www.amazon.com/MORE-DEADLY-Modern-American-history/dp/0824056728

The title is taken from a 1917-1918 Washington state report about injuries/fatalities in the logging industry, which found that it was more dangerous to work in the woods than get sent off to fight in WWI.

Lots of cool things about life back in 'the good old days', lots of not-so-cool things...

Leroy · Mar 1, 2018

Treetopflyer · Mar 2, 2018

treewill said:
Short answer: many of them didn't!

If you're interested, have a look at the book 'More Deadly than War'. It's a fascinating read about the history of the PNW logging industry: https://www.amazon.com/MORE-DEADLY-Modern-American-history/dp/0824056728

The title is taken from a 1917-1918 Washington state report about injuries/fatalities in the logging industry, which found that it was more dangerous to work in the woods than get sent off to fight in WWI.

Lots of cool things about life back in 'the good old days', lots of not-so-cool things...

Did you read the book? What was the reason(s) it was so unsafe?How was there so many injury or fatalities , would ppe have prevented the accidents ? When I checked the link there was no availabily of the book or out of print.

treewill · Mar 3, 2018

Treetopflyer said:
Did you read the book? What was the reason(s) it was so unsafe?How was there so many injury or fatalities , would ppe have prevented the accidents ? When I checked the link there was no availabily of the book or out of print.

I did, years ago. The report, which gives the title of the book, actually spurred some of the first workplace safety laws in the US, which were intended to make logging in the PNW less deadly.

The reasons it was so dangerous are many and complicated by changing technologies in different eras. But the overarching reason is that each operator is incentivized to get things done as quickly and cheaply as possible, regardless of risk. If they don't, they will be replaced by someone who will. Workplace safety laws created a common 'base' of safe practice that everyone had to abide by, removing the incentive to compete by being less safe. Later, direct financial penalties and threat of OSHA investigation made companies put more value on human life and safety.

Before these laws, when guys would die on site they would often just move him over to the side, cover up the body and keep going.

If you are interested, I have the book in my storage unit and could probably dig it up for some buzzers to borrow.

evo · Mar 3, 2018

treewill said:
Before these laws, when guys would die on site they would often just move him over to the side, cover up the body and keep going.

If you are interested, I have the book in my storage unit and could probably dig it up for some buzzers to borrow.

I'd love to read the book.. I've heard the same as well, just lean em up on a stump and load em up at the end of the 12-14 hr shift... Some of the logging camps were basically slave labor, where you'd be "shanghai'd" and wake up in a logging camp out in the woods somewhere.. My dad grew up with these stories, and started his logging career at 8-10 years old, setting chokers, and greasing skids. This would have been right at the beginning of the second WW.