Rope Wrench Acceptance for ITCC

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It is my understanding that climbers can use whatever hitch they want as long as they can demonstrate that it grabs immediately and positively without the Rope Wrench.

I believe that tethers will need to be rated and that semi static lines will be allowed for use with SRWP but not full static lines as all of the testing was run on semi static.

The ISC recommendations are exactly that....recommendations. As we all know there are no hitches that will work the same for every climber and every climber ,whether on Doubled Rope or Single Rope, should climb with a positively grabbing hitch.

As all of the testing was run using the ZK-2 model, I believe there has been a compromise that only the ZK-2 will be allowed. I believe there will be ZK-2's available for use at ITCC for those who currently have a ZK-1. (1 loaner at work climb, 1 at AR)
 
Nice job to everyone involved. I'm pleased to hear this bit of news. Rich, thanks for posting, my man!

After pouring over all recommendations and acceptance, I see nothing mentioned in regard to the tether being rated. Would this be rated for some parameter other than life support, such as rigidity, etc...? Is the Rope Wrench still 'Not Rated For Life Support'?
 
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I dont think this has anything to do with the hitch hiker or uni, I think they have to submit the necessary information like Petzl and Isc did.
 
This is a great positive move forward towards the future of climbing and competitions involving the ISA. I personally feel that if this was continually pushed further back on the burner that climbers would lose interest in competing in ITCC. So I guess kudos to ISA coming to their senses and much more kudos to those involved in tickling some taints and providing what was needed to make it happen.

Now, I'm sure the set up of the RW will be scrutinized during inspection for the comps, which it should be. At our company we have 8/9 climbers running SRT. Some on RW others on HH. Each RW config is different from the other and performs differently. The main issue I see is the hitch config. As Rich stated it must have a positive grab,to me at all times. I have been seeing some weird actions happening when certain hitches are tied and run a little loose. Especially when the tether isnt quite right. There are some scary set ups out there and especially new guys who think they can just jump in and make up what ever they want.
I'm not sure where I saw it but the RW is being sold with a short tether and a carabiner connecting it to a hitch climber pulley. That looks like crap and way to loose.

As far as the RW tether being life support. It doesnt seem necessary, unless you are clipping to the tether to advance your set up. Again there are plenty of configs, hope it all is considered.

To me this is the game changer that had to happen!!
 
Congratulations Rich! I know that you had years of effort and frustration in seeing it thru to this point. I admire your tenacity.
Question? My reading of the above link is that the ISA is expecting that climbers follow the ISC configuration for the rope wrench. The configuration is very specific as per 10mm beeline, 11mm kernmaster, ISC pulley and so on. How will any climber have any confidence that their particular setup will be allowed if they alter any of the components? Of course this only applies to competition situations since any competent climber will know if their system works on a daily basis. But as we all know, there is nothing more frustrating for a competitor to not be allowed to climb on something they use every day. Any ITCC judges to comment on this would be greatly appreciated.
 
LukeGlines said:
Congratulations Rich! I know that you had years of effort and frustration in seeing it thru to this point. I admire your tenacity.
Question? My reading of the above link is that the ISA is expecting that climbers follow the ISC configuration for the rope wrench. The configuration is very specific as per 10mm beeline, 11mm kernmaster, ISC pulley and so on. How will any climber have any confidence that their particular setup will be allowed if they alter any of the components? Of course this only applies to competition situations since any competent climber will know if their system works on a daily basis. But as we all know, there is nothing more frustrating for a competitor to not be allowed to climb on something they use every day. Any ITCC judges to comment on this would be greatly appreciated.
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Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble are going to be pissed . Should have seen how mad they got when you said they couldn't use spikes for pruning .
Should have been allowed before the prelims at chapter level . Late is better than never , but , should follow the same rules that got you to the dance , Rules this important should be at the start of a season not a month before the championship round . Changes take place at speeds dictated by those on " board " .
I'm happy , but it should have been approved before the qualifying chapter events .
 
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