Rigging Report, complete

Mahk_Adams

Mahk_Adams

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I was looking forward to reading this document and appreciate a lot of work has gone into it but sorry to say this but it seems a bit excessive, you'd need some kind of higher level certificate in basic Engineering principles to even begin to interpret the information.

Why 370 pages long? certainly not going to waste money printing out these pages.

Couldn't they have condensed the information?

Why so much name dropping in the document? reminds me of a University PHD project where the author just regurgitates previous research material and is pandering to the academic elite who will be reading it.

I dont want to know who said what and when I just what good easy to absorb information.

What is the purpose of the document? Who exactly is it aimed at? What is it for?

Unfortunately I suspect this document will be widely ignored by the treeclimbing fraternity due to the fact it is so inaccessable.

positives - tree inspection prior to rigging section.
 
I think he's only letting us know that the document he's worked on is finished and not that this is written for us.

It says on the cover page that it was prepared for the Health and Safety Executive and Forestry Commission. It is a research report paper. There is a defined format that it must follow and the "name dropping" is required as credit must be given to any and all referenced materials and contributions otherwise plagiarism accusations could be leveled at the authors.

My technical communications teacher told us, two things. Write to your audiences level and the format for any technical writing is,"Tell 'em what you're GOING to tell 'em. TELL 'EM, then tell 'em what you told them."

You want the condensed version read the "executive summary". That will give you the fundamentals.

As for the tree climbing fraternity, read page 6. There you will find what is recommended for getting the relevant information out to arborists.
 
I think treehumper answered your comments.

Also see page 2:

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The ultimate objective of the research was to provide information relating to rigging operations
that can feed through, by appropriate mechanisms, to personnel involved in rigging operations
in the arboricultural industry, in such a way that standards are improved and, correspondingly, a
reduction in accidents/injuries is achieved.

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A good way to get something out of technical reports like this is to look at the table of contents and see what topics interest you. Turn to the relevant section of the document and read the introduction and conclusion.

Also, I know two of the authors and have often spoken with them to varying length and depth on a number of different topics. But I did not write any of the Report.

I put the link here so that people would know of the document and can get out it what they want.
 
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It says on the cover page that it was prepared for the Health and Safety Executive and Forestry Commission.

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So they've created a document that practising climbing arborists find difficult to understand and they expect the people from the HSE and the Forestry Comm. (who have a very limited knowledge of arboricultural operations) to try and understand it?

That doesnt make sense, the people from the HSE and Forestry Comm, 99.9% of whom have probably never worked on a large scale tree rigging operation dont even know what a Portawrap is let alone trying to figure out how all these mathematical equations relate to the job.

If anything the document should be even more condensed for the HSE people.
 
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So they've created a document that practising climbing arborists find difficult to understand ...

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Again, from the Report (page 2):

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The research project was primarily concerned with investigating specific aspects of
arboricultural rigging, with the overall objective of establishing information that could assist in
the introduction of improved standards of operation and safety throughout the arboricultural
industry.

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This was to, first, set a base and "...establish information..."


It goes on:


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The ultimate objective of the research was to provide information relating to rigging operations
that can feed through, by appropriate mechanisms, to personnel involved in rigging operations
in the arboricultural industry, in such a way that standards are improved and, correspondingly, a
reduction in accidents/injuries is achieved.

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The intent is that the information will "...feed through, by appropriate mechanisms, to personnel involved in rigging operations in the arboricultural industry..." This will occur by some people reading the report, and then distilling and disseminating that information through workshops and seminars.
 
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The Rigging Report for the HSE, of which the article in this link:

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=148961&an=0&page=0#148961

was a samll part, is now complete and available online.



Click on 'View the Full Report' under HSE on the upper right side:

http://www.tree-consult.org/html/eng/indexeng.htm

It is well over 300 pages--closer to 400 pages. See page 134 ff. for weight of green logs. Much more thorough than anything else available.

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Mahk, is this from the UK?
Is this their 1st document on tree work?
 
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Mahk, is this from the UK?


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Ummmm............if I understand it correctly, the HSE is a UK organization, but it partners with other countries in the European Union.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/index.htm


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Is this their 1st document on tree work?

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You mean by the HSE or by the author(s)?

It's no for both of them. i.e. they have both published many things related to trees and treework.

A search of the HSE website for 'trees':

http://www.hse.gov.uk/search/googlecoop....ous-jano68#1190


The 'Articles' page of Brudi and Partner's (the primary author's) website:


http://www.tree-consult.org/html/eng/articles/statics.htm
 
Axeknot, the executive summary is really for the HSE and FC while the meat of the report will be read by people within the organization who understand the data. In the end, it's not directly meant to be read by the average tree guy. This will be rewritten for that audience soon enough.

I bet Tree spyder will lap this up!
 
If its a HSE document then its part funded by yours and other euro income tax Axeknot, the German guy must have won the tender to produce it....so you'd better make the most of it
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It's an excellent document. Well done to all those involved.

I thought it was for us people at the sharp end, hopefully the HSE people can make a book from it or something similar. Maybe someone like Treespyder can put it into an easy to follow guide, especially the rigging engineering equations?
 
Great report! Someone doing force calculations would have to ignore many factors because there is no information about their magnitude. This report fills in the blank spaces with solid experimantal data not available before.

In case you have not figured it out, the British HSE is the equivalent of the American OSHA. Another report put our by HSE is Paolo Bavaresco's report on friction hitches.
 
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...hopefully the HSE people can make a book from it or something similar.

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From someone involved in the Report:



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The next phases of this HSE/FC project will be the ones that are more
relevant to practical folk. Workshops will take place next year (in the
UK) and, of course, at some point there will be 'A Guide to Good Rigging
Practice' - the easy/easier to digest version of what we (as an industry)
currently know.

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In case you have not figured it out, the British HSE is the equivalent of the American OSHA.

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Hi Bob, actually seems to me that the HSE does a better job at funding applicable industry research. I can't see OSHA supporting anything like this.
 
I had my wife print this whole thing out (where she works lol) and Wow, it's a lot of paper/information! I going to take it to staples or somewhere and get it bound so I can flip through it at my leisure.
 
The report is a bit long winded of a read, but the most thorough description yet of a complicated part of our work.

A lot of research and hard work went into it. My hats off to the authors and their pursuits.
 
Mahk, thank you so much for letting us know about this document. What an investment of time and energy to produce something of this magnitude.

Being both a civil engineering technician as well as a tree worker, I can really appreciate the work involved. Rigging work is what I find most fascinating about the tree care industry. I’ve so much to still learn and its great to see people doing this type of research.

This is the type of document that I’m sure the late Dr. Peter Donzelli would have worked on or produced had he not died in that tree accident
 
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