Palm removal in SO-CAL
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easyphloem
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- Location
- Louisville, KY
That looks nasty!
So you just shoot a line over the top, and you trust it to not slide to the left or right? Never having climbed a palm, I have no idea what the TIP would be like. I like the idea of SRT climbing or pulley off of a static line (with Tachyon, not P.I.).
Cool pics!
SZ
So you just shoot a line over the top, and you trust it to not slide to the left or right? Never having climbed a palm, I have no idea what the TIP would be like. I like the idea of SRT climbing or pulley off of a static line (with Tachyon, not P.I.).
Cool pics!
SZ
- Location
- Longmont, CO
Stephan, there aren't any palms in Norf Kakalak?
Javi, do you ever rent a lift of any kind to do some of those jobs?
Javi, do you ever rent a lift of any kind to do some of those jobs?
easyphloem
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- Location
- Louisville, KY
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Stephan, there aren't any palms in Norf Kakalak?
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Not in Crunkville (that I have seen). I am about 31/2 hours from the coast, where Palms do grow for sure. I haven't seen any tall palms out there, though.
SZ
Stephan, there aren't any palms in Norf Kakalak?
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Not in Crunkville (that I have seen). I am about 31/2 hours from the coast, where Palms do grow for sure. I haven't seen any tall palms out there, though.
SZ
- Location
- Pa near Philly
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Just finished removing this palm w/a nasty vine, not to far from this job site there was a climber stuck in a palm that needed rescued by the fire department last wk. I'll post a picture of that palm tomorrow.
First pic a 65 ft palm Wash palm .
Later in SO-CAL...
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I have read the desrciption of how these deaths are occuring but I am not picturing it. Do the fronds break off in a ring or a large group? This happens to guys acsending the trunk with a lanyard?
I used to live out there before , we used the fronds to cover our patios and such. If we needed some and there where none on the ground we would tie a rock to a string and yank em down. We also used to shoot the birds up in them to feed to the pet snakes so I know what lurks in those things and personally would not climb that tree in a fashion where the fronds would get me or where I couldn't jump ship... fast. I mean these accidents seem to regular for guys to keep doing it again and again.
I never climbed a palm, not really the islander climb either and so far I am kinda glad. Its one spooky tree huh? Its like to run up their to set a bomb off in it first so to shake everything out . Its quite a decieving tree being just a trunk and the top.
Just finished removing this palm w/a nasty vine, not to far from this job site there was a climber stuck in a palm that needed rescued by the fire department last wk. I'll post a picture of that palm tomorrow.
First pic a 65 ft palm Wash palm .
Later in SO-CAL...
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I have read the desrciption of how these deaths are occuring but I am not picturing it. Do the fronds break off in a ring or a large group? This happens to guys acsending the trunk with a lanyard?
I used to live out there before , we used the fronds to cover our patios and such. If we needed some and there where none on the ground we would tie a rock to a string and yank em down. We also used to shoot the birds up in them to feed to the pet snakes so I know what lurks in those things and personally would not climb that tree in a fashion where the fronds would get me or where I couldn't jump ship... fast. I mean these accidents seem to regular for guys to keep doing it again and again.
I never climbed a palm, not really the islander climb either and so far I am kinda glad. Its one spooky tree huh? Its like to run up their to set a bomb off in it first so to shake everything out . Its quite a decieving tree being just a trunk and the top.
- Location
- AZ
Nice job. That was a monster! Been there before.
In my opinion the ISA and TCIA need to highlight this deadly problem far more than they have to date.
One of my climbing heroes Rich Magargal has more hands on experience with palms than any other climber I know. He has been very active giving talks on this very issue at seminars for many years now that he is semi-retired from climbing them due to reduced lung capacity attributable to breathing too much palm dust over his long career in this biz.
It's high time the authorities in arboriculture take a pro-active stance nationwide to prevent these needless deaths involving climbers with limited experience in trimming mexican fan palms.
Why this isn't on the the front pages of tree magazines is a question worthy of an answer.
Again, just my opinion as an almost 36 year veteran arborist in SoCal who's getting a bit tired of reading of these preventable deaths almost every other week.
jomoco
One of my climbing heroes Rich Magargal has more hands on experience with palms than any other climber I know. He has been very active giving talks on this very issue at seminars for many years now that he is semi-retired from climbing them due to reduced lung capacity attributable to breathing too much palm dust over his long career in this biz.
It's high time the authorities in arboriculture take a pro-active stance nationwide to prevent these needless deaths involving climbers with limited experience in trimming mexican fan palms.
Why this isn't on the the front pages of tree magazines is a question worthy of an answer.
Again, just my opinion as an almost 36 year veteran arborist in SoCal who's getting a bit tired of reading of these preventable deaths almost every other week.
jomoco
- Location
- San Diego, Ca. North county
Yeah, Me to John, I know Rich. Taught me to climb over a Date palm years ago. So, why?
Jeff
Jeff
Yea , Rich is a good palm man , I work w/ Rich and other climbers yrs ago on a job in Borrego and at Palm Springs and we did a lot of palms .... Rich is fast on those Date palms.
We have been talking w/Tim Walsh on doing some type of video on these killer palms for down here in SO-CAL ..In English and in Spanish for all my Latino brothers..
All the time I see guys doing big full palms I try and give them some safety tips and explain to them how dangerous these palm are
Later in SO-CAL
We have been talking w/Tim Walsh on doing some type of video on these killer palms for down here in SO-CAL ..In English and in Spanish for all my Latino brothers..
All the time I see guys doing big full palms I try and give them some safety tips and explain to them how dangerous these palm are
Later in SO-CAL
- Location
- Longmont, CO
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On all my side jobs it's a straight up brother.. At my regular jobs it's w/my new 75ft altec or a crane to remove them,,
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Nice...
So, Javi, since you like to approach these from the outside of the fronds, can you ever make a huge ring of fronds fall to the ground intentionally? Simply to speed up the process... I'd like to see someone send a huge chunk of them to the ground on video.
On all my side jobs it's a straight up brother.. At my regular jobs it's w/my new 75ft altec or a crane to remove them,,
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Nice...
So, Javi, since you like to approach these from the outside of the fronds, can you ever make a huge ring of fronds fall to the ground intentionally? Simply to speed up the process... I'd like to see someone send a huge chunk of them to the ground on video.
- Location
- South Carolina
I hate removing palms they're heavy and it never fails its in the backyard with no access but to haul it out by hand
- Location
- Longmont, CO
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Yea you can Jamin , only if you can get one that it's ready to go , plus that can be pretty dangerous has it comes down. I did one last yr and 20ft of frons came down and it took out a patio roof , so I try not to do that over ant buildings..
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LOL!
Who would'a thunk it?!
So, do a bunch of different critters start running out of there if that happens?
Yea you can Jamin , only if you can get one that it's ready to go , plus that can be pretty dangerous has it comes down. I did one last yr and 20ft of frons came down and it took out a patio roof , so I try not to do that over ant buildings..
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LOL!
So, do a bunch of different critters start running out of there if that happens?
- Location
- San Diego, Ca. North county
I believe the standard now approved is a palm with more than 5 years growth(maybe it is 3 years), is a hazard and must be climbed on the outside of the fronds. That is what we do now.
Jeff
Jeff
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