Overgrown Hedges and Setting Realistic Expectations

climbingmonkey24

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How do you present clients with realistic expectations when faced with a hedge that is way overgrown, has holes / gaps in the growth creating unevenness and bare spots, upper growth that resemble mature tree tops as opposed to those of a hedge topping out at different heights in different spots, vines everywhere, etc.

My approach usually is to say how once a hedge has gotten to a point that it’s very overgrown there’s only so much you can do with the initial trim after years of neglect and sometimes it becomes more about managing (if you’re gonna compare a hedge that is 12-15+ ft tall and hasn’t been trimmed in years to the 8-10 ft hedge across the street that’s been trimmed every year and is an entirely different species). We’ll do what we can to try and get it as tight and even as possible and blend in the bare areas, etc. but it may not be possible to get it perfectly flat and square all the way around. And that going forward regular maintenance could help keep it under control and over time it may be possible to “train it” somewhat to adhere to a more desirable shape and fill in somewhat, but the key being regular yearly maintenance (depending how fast it grows).

I know some arborists / climbers want nothing to do with hedge work, but curious how some of you who do take on these kinds of jobs approach these situations to avoid any potential conflict with the client not being satisfied with the outcome.
 
Write down all the points.

Write down , politely, that you can try to fix a broken hedge but you can't unbreak it, it takes multiple pruning sessions then ongoing maintenance, and that you are neither a fortune teller nor miracle worker.
 
I've got a 3 yrs no cut cedar 12'er staring me down right now complete with vines but thankfully not the ones with mini grapes. AD text "robaxacet says you can't". two years ago I would of considered doing it. about 200' long! I'm dodging it. let a younger man at the beast. oh and wide at the top too. yay. solid foot to foot and a half side growth since I last did it. owner declined way back when I suggested time to do it probably because it didn't look out of control yet.

I agree with Boomslang, I saw a house flip special cedars get hacked and about 3 years later they fuzzed in.
 
Don’t do them, seriously.
You can tell them it’ll look shit, they’ll agree but when you do it (and it looks shit) they’ll blame you.
I take them out completelly, grind and replace or rarely (with stuff like laurel that regenerates from blind wood) I’ll cut it to 4/5feet so I can do it standing in the ground.
 
I think Mick makes a great point. If it isn't a species that can resprout from the wood, so that a hard restart is possible, then they will likely have a nice hedge sooner if they replant. Having you come back with the requisite frequency to repair a hedge that is too big for them to personally maintain will probably cost more in not too much time.

As with so many of these situations, the specific solution comes down to species and location.
 
Ive seen junipers and arborvitae resprout from stubs.

With some care those resprouts filled holes
I’ve also used 1 layer of green flagging tape to bend and tie branches where needed. Not the best but it degrades with enough sun before girdling.
Haven’t gone hippy enough to use paper flagging tape. If I used more I would certainly switch

I took down an escollnia hedge this past fall, then this winter we got an epic cold snap with wind, we lost many throughout the island. Client thinks I killed them.
 
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Tape is brilliant, never thought of that
I once saw someone who tied rocks to their bush to weigh the new growth down, training it away from their window
 
Tape is brilliant, never thought of that
I once saw someone who tied rocks to their bush to weigh the new growth down, training it away from their window
One of my clients made their own weights from oldschool mini school milk cartons chunk of wire and concrete. Whatever works!
I’ve played around with paracord and tent stakes (or home made from sticks) to manipulate branches. Works great for fruit tree training!
 
Don’t do them, seriously.
You can tell them it’ll look shit, they’ll agree but when you do it (and it looks shit) they’ll blame you.
I take them out completelly, grind and replace or rarely (with stuff like laurel that regenerates from blind wood) I’ll cut it to 4/5feet so I can do it standing in the ground.
Now this is my approach. Fuck your hedge you don't like maintaining. I will not sully my reputation pissing with your stupid hedge you allowed to get away. Tropical hedges are insanely wild mostly. I run from hedges and palms. Love killing them all. I get enjoyment killing them. Tall hedges are plain stupid. I have a neat well controlled soft hedge in front which a guy maintains for me. 0 vines and all secateurs work. Looks great at 5 feet and blocks passing vehicles sounds and peeping eyes.
 

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