Reg
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He means six thousand for the software No_Bivy, I assume that's what you were asking.
New Arborist tool
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He means six thousand for the software No_Bivy, I assume that's what you were asking.
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Slighty under 6K but still dam expensive!!
http://tinyurl.com/sff9h
He means six thousand for the software No_Bivy, I assume that's what you were asking.
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Slighty under 6K but still dam expensive!!
http://tinyurl.com/sff9h
Reg
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Hello Iceman,
Unfortunately I'm not in a position to answer either of you questions at the moment. I do have verbal aggreements with a handful of reputable retailers, but I daren't take the liberty of just broadcasting it without their say so, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't mind, but without discussing it with them first I shouldn't really say.
Same senario with the price. The first batch have already been sold direct at wholesale price, although my customers have yet to recieve their products. I am however currently working hard on bringing the cost and weight down further for the following retailers batch.
Hopefully this will significantly reduce the mnfctg costs and effectively result in a cheaper retail price than what is possible at the moment.
Sorry if thay sounds a little no-committal but until this has been has been achieved, I really can't say. Hopefully this process shouldn't take much nore than a month or so to sort out, so they should be advertised at the final retail price soon-after. I'll be sure to let you know as this info becomes available. Thanks. Reg
Unfortunately I'm not in a position to answer either of you questions at the moment. I do have verbal aggreements with a handful of reputable retailers, but I daren't take the liberty of just broadcasting it without their say so, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't mind, but without discussing it with them first I shouldn't really say.
Same senario with the price. The first batch have already been sold direct at wholesale price, although my customers have yet to recieve their products. I am however currently working hard on bringing the cost and weight down further for the following retailers batch.
Hopefully this will significantly reduce the mnfctg costs and effectively result in a cheaper retail price than what is possible at the moment.
Sorry if thay sounds a little no-committal but until this has been has been achieved, I really can't say. Hopefully this process shouldn't take much nore than a month or so to sort out, so they should be advertised at the final retail price soon-after. I'll be sure to let you know as this info becomes available. Thanks. Reg
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Good idea for the folks who would use one.--Maybe tight areas?
Sorry, I won't need one.
I never get into those kind of situatuions. Seems like I can fell the rest of the tree when it is that size of wood I am dealing with. I try to avoid chunking large stuff like that (with or without a block).
Good luck. Get $herrill to be the exclusive dealer and you can sell it for double the value!
Sorry, I won't need one.
I never get into those kind of situatuions. Seems like I can fell the rest of the tree when it is that size of wood I am dealing with. I try to avoid chunking large stuff like that (with or without a block).
Good luck. Get $herrill to be the exclusive dealer and you can sell it for double the value!
Reg
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quote [I try to avoid chunking large stuff like that]
My sentiments excactly Notahacker. Its always easier to deal with thing on the floor. Nothing glamarous about being stuck to some stump getting sore feet.
Thing are often tighter in Europe though. You'd also be suprised how many people hammer nails, steel attachments into the base of their trees over the years. Once these hazards are detected, its often more practical to section fell and deal with the metal in your last few cuts. This tool just provides an easy method for which this can be achieved. But you are correct in your methodology.
My sentiments excactly Notahacker. Its always easier to deal with thing on the floor. Nothing glamarous about being stuck to some stump getting sore feet.
Thing are often tighter in Europe though. You'd also be suprised how many people hammer nails, steel attachments into the base of their trees over the years. Once these hazards are detected, its often more practical to section fell and deal with the metal in your last few cuts. This tool just provides an easy method for which this can be achieved. But you are correct in your methodology.
Nice project Reg.
As for the quip about ergonomics, your tool lends itself to a very ergonomic technique!
When people see the full glory instructional vid, they'll understand the concept better. The bar is so simple and ingenius it hurts!
Its interesting to see yet another cutting edge arborist product being developed with utter committment by time served British climbers, despite a rigorous and binding regulation and litigation culture? Must be something in the water!
I'm looking forward to trying it. I expect with a longer handle you could shift some seriously heavy rounds! Thanks!
As for the quip about ergonomics, your tool lends itself to a very ergonomic technique!
When people see the full glory instructional vid, they'll understand the concept better. The bar is so simple and ingenius it hurts!
Its interesting to see yet another cutting edge arborist product being developed with utter committment by time served British climbers, despite a rigorous and binding regulation and litigation culture? Must be something in the water!
I'm looking forward to trying it. I expect with a longer handle you could shift some seriously heavy rounds! Thanks!
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Nice project Reg.
Its interesting to see yet another cutting edge arborist product being developed with utter committment by time served British climbers, despite a rigorous and binding regulation and litigation culture? Must be something in the water!
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Must be the water
Here's another 'cutting edge' product
Nice project Reg.
Its interesting to see yet another cutting edge arborist product being developed with utter committment by time served British climbers, despite a rigorous and binding regulation and litigation culture? Must be something in the water!
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Must be the water
Here's another 'cutting edge' product
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Reg
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Thanks Laz, I'm well aware of the ergonomic values. In fact, it might just be one of the better example's of the concept in relation to Arborist tools.
The ergonomics message as a whole is perhaps secondary only to safety, and is undoubtedly the way forward. It doesn't always sit comfortably with everyone, me included, but I would never denounce or deny its significance. Small batches are just easier to absorb and digest over time, for me anyway.
In an attempt to encourage the participants honest views throughout this thread, Ive tried to be factual rather than opinionated. This, I believe has worked out well and is evident by the variety of opinions returned. Thanks to everyone for your contributions, I have taken them all on board.
I have more products to follow, which are also a little querky. I look forward to posting them as they evolve, but that wont be just yet. Cheers
The ergonomics message as a whole is perhaps secondary only to safety, and is undoubtedly the way forward. It doesn't always sit comfortably with everyone, me included, but I would never denounce or deny its significance. Small batches are just easier to absorb and digest over time, for me anyway.
In an attempt to encourage the participants honest views throughout this thread, Ive tried to be factual rather than opinionated. This, I believe has worked out well and is evident by the variety of opinions returned. Thanks to everyone for your contributions, I have taken them all on board.
I have more products to follow, which are also a little querky. I look forward to posting them as they evolve, but that wont be just yet. Cheers
Why does that chipper not have a jockey wheel or stand?
Mr Ed you have forgotten to cross the safety chains over to the alternate sides.
If it comes off its gonna dig a trench in the road, if it doesn't flip up.
Looks reasonably well made...is it U.S. Built? If it is watch out the wheels dont fall off driving down the street.
Mr Ed you have forgotten to cross the safety chains over to the alternate sides.
If it comes off its gonna dig a trench in the road, if it doesn't flip up.
Looks reasonably well made...is it U.S. Built? If it is watch out the wheels dont fall off driving down the street.
Reg
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Iceman
You obviously like the product and I'm both pleased and encouraged by this, but just let it go for now mate. Ive tried to conclude on a couple of occassions but it just keeps coming back. Its all been said now, let it fade out with some dignity. There are far more relevant threads to discuss, which at this stage could really benefit from your input. Lets bury the Bdriver for now, even Im getting bored with it all. They should be on sale by the end of Feb so you can tell me how sh-t they are when that time arrives.
Thanks Ice.
Reg
You obviously like the product and I'm both pleased and encouraged by this, but just let it go for now mate. Ive tried to conclude on a couple of occassions but it just keeps coming back. Its all been said now, let it fade out with some dignity. There are far more relevant threads to discuss, which at this stage could really benefit from your input. Lets bury the Bdriver for now, even Im getting bored with it all. They should be on sale by the end of Feb so you can tell me how sh-t they are when that time arrives.
Thanks Ice.
Reg
skew
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Sorry to poo-poo a tool that you have obviously put alot of thought into but I think a felling lever and wedges will do for most stuff that I personally encounter.
Reg
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skew
That is a beautiful dog, looks a little like my pal's Gordon Setter. What is it?
Regarding the tool, a wedge and bar will 'not do' for me skew, not any more. I used to 'make do' free climbing, lowering through crotches, no lowering devise, no helmet/eye protection, no flipline, for years for no other reason other than the fact that I could. All big ugly intense jobs aswell skew. I actually have a small gallery on my homepage, have a look, I was only 20 on the pre helmet ones of the eucs. I was a macho cocky little fu--er, very efficient and dynamic, but in hindsight so ignorant to the fact that both myself and my equipment were working so much harder than what was required.
Now, when I reflect on my attitude back then, its difficult to even relate to, just pure ignorance with attitude.
I am a contract or freelance climber,its not just an alias that I thought would sound cool for this forum. I have worked in various countries, about 60 companies over the years and usually stay within a sindicate of about half a dozen at one time. If one of these companies get a bad job, more often than not it will have my name on it, nothing glamorous about that, it's sh-t and gets you down. However, that is my job and no-one forces me to continue, so I don't complain.
I have to improvise in all sorts of situations and ultimately take responsability for them. This product was invented to make a certain task that I am often burdened with, safer and easier, which it does very well, no doubt it is easier. This option will shortly be available to other climbers who often find themselves in a position like I have described. In other words, if you do not intend to fell many MATURE trees in confined spaces, then this is clearly not for you, save your money.
As a comparrison:
I personally do not own and rarely use a Hobbs or GRCS, but that doesn't mean my little portowrap is the better, safer option. Thankfully, my experience has made me a good strategist so I very rarely feel the need to apply 'lift' anyway. Instead my preference is firstly to try and work with gravity as opposed to working against it. Simple logic. But lift is a great luxury, but for me personally, thats all it is, not a neccesity.
The Blockdriver (another luxury) gives you the option to move big heavy sections safely and easily. I like moving big chunks with the thought that I wont have to make many cuts and will soon be stood on the floor as opposed to stood in my gaffs. Thats my incentive. If you want to stand up there all day making many repetitive cuts aided with bars and wedges then that is your preference and I would never tell you to do other wise. Personally, I can't be bothered with that sort of thing anymore.
Sorry to go on skew, but I really thought I'd finished this thread the other day. Up until now, Ive not really disclosed anything about myself as I beleived I had the products attributes pretty well covered and concluded, and didn't need to explain how the idea was spawned. Until, your post? After everything that could have been said had been said. Sorry, your timing seemed odd, so I thought I'd try to give you a more personal insight.
I just dont get you timing skew. If you had something profound to say then fair enough, but you haven't, so why now? No offence. Thanks. Reg
That is a beautiful dog, looks a little like my pal's Gordon Setter. What is it?
Regarding the tool, a wedge and bar will 'not do' for me skew, not any more. I used to 'make do' free climbing, lowering through crotches, no lowering devise, no helmet/eye protection, no flipline, for years for no other reason other than the fact that I could. All big ugly intense jobs aswell skew. I actually have a small gallery on my homepage, have a look, I was only 20 on the pre helmet ones of the eucs. I was a macho cocky little fu--er, very efficient and dynamic, but in hindsight so ignorant to the fact that both myself and my equipment were working so much harder than what was required.
Now, when I reflect on my attitude back then, its difficult to even relate to, just pure ignorance with attitude.
I am a contract or freelance climber,its not just an alias that I thought would sound cool for this forum. I have worked in various countries, about 60 companies over the years and usually stay within a sindicate of about half a dozen at one time. If one of these companies get a bad job, more often than not it will have my name on it, nothing glamorous about that, it's sh-t and gets you down. However, that is my job and no-one forces me to continue, so I don't complain.
I have to improvise in all sorts of situations and ultimately take responsability for them. This product was invented to make a certain task that I am often burdened with, safer and easier, which it does very well, no doubt it is easier. This option will shortly be available to other climbers who often find themselves in a position like I have described. In other words, if you do not intend to fell many MATURE trees in confined spaces, then this is clearly not for you, save your money.
As a comparrison:
I personally do not own and rarely use a Hobbs or GRCS, but that doesn't mean my little portowrap is the better, safer option. Thankfully, my experience has made me a good strategist so I very rarely feel the need to apply 'lift' anyway. Instead my preference is firstly to try and work with gravity as opposed to working against it. Simple logic. But lift is a great luxury, but for me personally, thats all it is, not a neccesity.
The Blockdriver (another luxury) gives you the option to move big heavy sections safely and easily. I like moving big chunks with the thought that I wont have to make many cuts and will soon be stood on the floor as opposed to stood in my gaffs. Thats my incentive. If you want to stand up there all day making many repetitive cuts aided with bars and wedges then that is your preference and I would never tell you to do other wise. Personally, I can't be bothered with that sort of thing anymore.
Sorry to go on skew, but I really thought I'd finished this thread the other day. Up until now, Ive not really disclosed anything about myself as I beleived I had the products attributes pretty well covered and concluded, and didn't need to explain how the idea was spawned. Until, your post? After everything that could have been said had been said. Sorry, your timing seemed odd, so I thought I'd try to give you a more personal insight.
I just dont get you timing skew. If you had something profound to say then fair enough, but you haven't, so why now? No offence. Thanks. Reg
skew
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Sorry to offend that wasn't my intent. I suppose timing wise it just took until today to read the thread. I do a fair amount of removals in tight spaces but I sort of like to see a tool in person or use it before I am convinced. Sorry I am just sort of a cynic by nature. My dog is Seamus McPender- a Labrador Retriever - 5 years and a really good boy and son of my other dog Angus Mcdoogie. So I figure I'll wait and see one of your tools in action or wait until one of the bros has one and then maybe I'll drop in. But in the mean time my felling lever and plastic wedges will get the job done.
"If you don't have nothin, you don't need nothin" Ennis Delmar
"If you don't have nothin, you don't need nothin" Ennis Delmar
Reg
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You didn’t offend me skew, you just raised my eyebrows a little. No worries.
Your timing in regards to its content, and the fact that your post was a reply not to me, but to Masterblaster, got my attention. Your second post was more elaborate and seemed appropriate. However, I’m aware this forum is a facility for users to say what they want, when they want, so we all take the rough with the smooth and respond accordingly.
I, like yourself skew am also a little cynical, but not so much about products and methods, more so about people and their agenda’s. Unfortunately this cynicism has increased since I started this project. It’s amazing how many people you suspect would rather see you fail than succeed. You come across them through various kinds of communication, most try to disguise their true feelings but they always give something away. They know who they are, and more importantly, I know who they are, although what drives them I just don’t know!
If you go back to the start of this tread you will realize that it was actually an appeal for help. I can’t believe that after 1300 views all but one person has offered an opinion. Axeknot, who doesn’t even live in Amerca. Thanks anyway Axe.
You would be surprised how many others outside of treebuzz that I have contacted in the US regarding my problem, but have decided to ignore me. They’ve either decided that they are too busy or perhaps too important to reply, but good manners cost nothing which reflects very badly on some of these self proclaimed innovators. I hope I’ll get the opportunity to tell them that in person.
On the contrary, I’ve met or communicated with some great guys who have tried to be constructive whether by means of praise or criticism, and with nothing to gain for themselves. I’m lucky to have come across these individuals, and it’s reassuring to know that they’re out there.
I know you didn’t really ask these questions skew, but they are worth posting to prepare anyone thinking of doing something similar. These are of course only my opinions, but they are an honest account and have been part of a learning process, which makes them worth sharing.
This thread is now totally exhausted, when the product is launched perhaps there may be more to add to it. Or, perhaps someone can offer some direction on my initial enquiry. Whatever. Thanks everyone for putting up with my ramblings. Reg. Oh, and where is Duranglow skew?
Your timing in regards to its content, and the fact that your post was a reply not to me, but to Masterblaster, got my attention. Your second post was more elaborate and seemed appropriate. However, I’m aware this forum is a facility for users to say what they want, when they want, so we all take the rough with the smooth and respond accordingly.
I, like yourself skew am also a little cynical, but not so much about products and methods, more so about people and their agenda’s. Unfortunately this cynicism has increased since I started this project. It’s amazing how many people you suspect would rather see you fail than succeed. You come across them through various kinds of communication, most try to disguise their true feelings but they always give something away. They know who they are, and more importantly, I know who they are, although what drives them I just don’t know!
If you go back to the start of this tread you will realize that it was actually an appeal for help. I can’t believe that after 1300 views all but one person has offered an opinion. Axeknot, who doesn’t even live in Amerca. Thanks anyway Axe.
You would be surprised how many others outside of treebuzz that I have contacted in the US regarding my problem, but have decided to ignore me. They’ve either decided that they are too busy or perhaps too important to reply, but good manners cost nothing which reflects very badly on some of these self proclaimed innovators. I hope I’ll get the opportunity to tell them that in person.
On the contrary, I’ve met or communicated with some great guys who have tried to be constructive whether by means of praise or criticism, and with nothing to gain for themselves. I’m lucky to have come across these individuals, and it’s reassuring to know that they’re out there.
I know you didn’t really ask these questions skew, but they are worth posting to prepare anyone thinking of doing something similar. These are of course only my opinions, but they are an honest account and have been part of a learning process, which makes them worth sharing.
This thread is now totally exhausted, when the product is launched perhaps there may be more to add to it. Or, perhaps someone can offer some direction on my initial enquiry. Whatever. Thanks everyone for putting up with my ramblings. Reg. Oh, and where is Duranglow skew?
I think when everyone sees the second, more enlightening, video of the block driver and bar, the lights will come on.
If your a bar and wedges man Skew, you will surely appreciate the way the bar works - a really great and simple (but very clever) idea.
I look forward to playing with the block driver soon. Sooner than TreeFlex shouldn't be a problem - I think the reality of that product has slipped into 'Unicorn' status!
If your a bar and wedges man Skew, you will surely appreciate the way the bar works - a really great and simple (but very clever) idea.
I look forward to playing with the block driver soon. Sooner than TreeFlex shouldn't be a problem - I think the reality of that product has slipped into 'Unicorn' status!
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