multiSLING part 2 ... with ringLOOP

Question, you kept saying 2/1 when using that small loop with a revolver. But isn't that a 3/1? Not that its a big deal, just curious. I like to understand everything. More to just clear things up in my head.

Good video. Could you just back your prussic (used in the monkey tail) up with two half hitches or a figure 8 knot? Instead of making it a closed system. Just seems Like it would save time.

Are you going to make a video highlighting your lanyard? Looked like you had the new lanyard as well! Really wanna see all the attributes of the small prussic and ring.
 
Great video, Taylor! Really like your presentation style - great work! Likin' that little ringLOOP (especially the way it's captured in the revolver) - still thinkin' about the multiSLING.

When you're descending (7:10-7:15), you are using hitches to descend SRT. That's something we've been told, and told, can't be done. It's wonderful that you've shown rappelling SRT with hitches can be done!!!
Any advice or comment on using that technique for a long rappel?

Then, when you're ascending (7:16-7:30), you are essentially using a 'RADS' type technique with hitches ... add a foot loop it would be a RADS ... sorta. Actually, it's better 'cause you don't have to remove anything to transition to a descent. Gotta agree with Derrick about it being 3/1.
Any advice or opinion on using that technique for work positioning?

VERY innovative!!! Good job!!!
 
Derrick and Jack,

It is a 2 to 1 hauling system because there are two parts of line at the moving block (in this case, the Hitchclimber). The tail of rope through the Revolver is only a change in direction for the pull. Three parts of line there, but that 'block' is stationary.

Yes, it is descent on a single rope using hitches. However, I still have the tail redirected and giving some added friction, however slight, through the Hitchclimber and Revolver. So, it's not really descending on a hitch only... something that I wouldn't do.

Thanks for the comments!
 
Not that I'm all for buying new gear, but how did that setup differ from an adjustable friction saver? Save for the fact it seemed somewhat more time consuming and gear intensive to set up?

I realize it's just another purpose for the multi sling, and I may have to grab a few of those ring loops as I've got a few uses for those, but just seems a tougher way to skin the same cat.
 
Id like to chime in regarding a friction saver.A friction saver doesnt keep you as close to the trunk as this technique and does not allow as stable work positioning-This can be adjustable as long as you want it be,while a friction saver is limited and keeps you further out on the trunk.When you got lower this system its alot easier to pull down and re cinch,a F/S you have to bomb out over your head and set it up again.Once you get to the really big stuff a friction saver would be very difficult to install(who carrys a 20 foot F/S anyway)with this technique its already installed just pull it down and re cinch as you go lower and bigger.
 
Nice job on the videos.
I have used a monkey tail set up quite a bit. Why not put the revover in the back up knot and run the tail through that. When you get where your going pull it to retrieve ring and sling. This way you dont have to pull alot of rope through initially or use another prussik for the revolver.
The downside I see would be if you wanted to go back up maybe it would load the set up improperly. Im not sure on that.

Just puttin it out there.
 
Hi Mark,

The retrieval method you describe is very quick to install. However, in that case you cannot use your redirected tail for added friction or hauling. Any pressure or weight on the tail only serves to loosen the choke around the stem. I suppose you may still have enough body weight on the standing part of the line to prevent a complete collapse of the system, but... I feel much better keeping all weight and hauling systems away from the retrieval tail.
 
Hey Taylor thanks for posting that demonstration, very cool.
Can you eliminate the alpine butterfly knot in this system and still be safe. What is the reason that you put that there, is their potential for the prussic to slip?
I’v been using the adjustable friction savers for a while and then crossed back over to just chocking the spare with a running bull line. I'd like to try out this system look
Awesome!
 
Taylor Awsome videos! Thanks for taking the time and effort. I'm liking the "Review" of the products!
You defenitly deserve a Brewsky!!!
 
Nice set up. I typically use a running bowline with the length tail needed to get down to next stop. It chokes tight, not always the smoothes to get down, but I've always got it down. Less gear to carry too. I'm sure I'm not the only one doing this.
 
Re: multiSLING part 2 ... NEW URL FOR VID

Thanks again Taylor for taking the time and doing this. You're helping a lot of us out with questions that your videos clearly show and answer for us.

Very much appreciated. BTW, are you tired of the snow yet?
 
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