MS 261 doesn't run properly after cutting stump...

timmysaint

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Hi Guys,

So I wonder if anyone can help here. Two years ago, I purchased a new MS 261. One day, my groundman at the time was using the saw for bucking some Red Pine, and I could hear him running the saw while it was being pinched - not using proper wedges - and it was making that kind of 'low, grumbling'. It's one of those things - I don't want to hold their hands and TELL them how to use the saw, and I was climbing at the time, but I probably should have rapped down and shown him.

Anyway, the saw stopped working properly.

It sort of began working sporadically - starting, running for a bit, then stalling. Sometimes not starting back up, sometimes working fine for a few minutes. I thought it might be the microchip, brought the saw to 3 SHOPS !!! and, despite paying for the cost of the saw in 'repairs' that didn't actually fix the problem, I retired the dang thing.

Fast forward- two years later. Now, I've got a great, hard working groundman and great, all-around guy. HOWEVER, last week, he was running my replacement MS 261, and I heard that low grindin' sound, and he was taking out a stump at the end of a long, hot day and didn't use wedges and...

Yeah. Shoulda said something.

Saw broke. Same symptoms. So, has anyone had this problem? Is there a fix? Did the clutch assembly overheat, and so the saw wont run properly because of the something there????

I'm bringing an OLD MS290 back into service because I got big bills to cover yet ( leaking tractor, credit card/line of credit winter lifeline...etc). Before I go buying another small limbing saw for the ground guys to use, should I just stick with something heavier, like the 290 (or it's today equivalent) for the guys with less saw experience?? Also, don't want to seem like a jerk by not letting them run good saws, but it gets spendy!!!

Thanks.
 
Ms 250 are cheap when on sale, $300.

Tree stuff has some Husky fleet discount program, 3+ saws or something, if I recall correctly.

Good saws for good Sawyers...beater saws for beater guys, maybe.



Make a YouTube playlist for new hires. A picture...1000 words, all that.
Train them with a reward in mind... Bigger and better saws and better skills, to use there, and to take with them.

P.S. take your clutch cover off and clean the saw... Have a look.
 
A 261 is a pretty small saw for flushing stumps. Any chance is overheated and scored the piston, or rattled something loose? Are we talking the M-tronic or oldschool?
 
Honestly new hires without chainsaw experience should get a basic MS170. With 14" bar and chain. Basics first. Once the proficiency of safe use is shown. Then a MS 251 is next. No pro saws till they really start respecting the saw. Learn how to clean the air filter and sharpen the chain. Check for bar wear etc. It is a slow journey for most but well worth it as you see them grow to respect one of the world's deadliest power tools.
 
I'll echo what's recently been said. My workers were provided basic stihl 021/210's. If there was a pattern of heavy handed use/abuse with a saw, I'd take them to the saw shop and buy a new work saw for them. Then I'd take 50 bucks out of their check until their saw was paid for. It was remarkable how well those saws were taken care of. My dad actually gave me the idea. As an auto mechanic he was expected to provide his own tools.
 
Honestly new hires without chainsaw experience should get a basic MS170. With 14" bar and chain. Basics first. Once the proficiency of safe use is shown. Then a MS 251 is next. No pro saws till they really start respecting the saw. Learn how to clean the air filter and sharpen the chain. Check for bar wear etc. It is a slow journey for most but well worth it as you see them grow to respect one of the world's deadliest power tools.


I'd like to teach them with a heavy saw, in a way. You can easily one-hand a 170, not being forced into good ergonomics.

Chicken and egg.
 

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