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I haven't spent enough time at Butch's site to determine how that software handles tracking from the visitor's perspective.

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Your loss, my brother. But like you said, it's a bit too "image intensive" for you, eh?
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Glen, I am a user at The previous site listed and it has the newest upgrades and the posts only delete if they are "opened" or "marked as read".

If you are on 56k you definately do not see what we are seeing.
 
I'm going to fetch a copy of the forum software and have a look at it.

So you're saying that if you are a "member", you visit and get a listing of new threads/posts but don't review them all before you leave, and that in such case the next time you visit all those unread posts will still be so marked? That's the way it works here; doesn't at AS, and it's off-putting enough (aside from the site itself) to not bother.

I got a kick out of this blurb on the "requirements for our software" (simplemachines) page:

"Additionally, JavaScript and cookies must be enabled for some features to work as intended, although efforts have been made to not require them."

Yeah, right. I had to look at the source of the main forestryforum page to see what the URLs were for the forums just so I could enter them. That as opposed to enabling javascript... It's about as quick to grab the rest of the URL from the source and slap it into the location bar as it is to enable js; going back to disable it again tips the scale away from that avenue.

By the way, every-Windows-one, there was another "zero day" serious exploit discovered in IE yesterday/today. See http://isc.sans.org/ (it's a bloggy site, so it may have rolled off the first page in a day or two -- don't know, don't care too much). Even if you're running everything patched up to date it won't do you any good if you happen to click a "dirty" link. Good luck maintaining "owner"ship of your own computer!

I don't have a clue why I'd see anything different in terms of forum content using my dialup than you would on your cable/DSL connection, apart from perhaps less in any given timeframe.
 
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When visiting a V bulletin based board you click the "New Posts" button you get all the threads that are either new or someone has posted a comment to. If you should log out or change computers and log back in your threads that you did not view go into the botton catagory and is clearly marked "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread posts".
 
So one of those bottom threads has, say, three posts new to you, but not new since your last visit. When you "click on" the thread, does it take you to your first unread post or do you have to fish for it? I'd played with a current copy (v3.0.7) of vBulletin at the end of last March, and it definitely did not track posts in that way then.

I've got current copies of phpBB2 and simplemachines' smf. Perhaps by the weekend I'll have a chance to plug them in and see what they do.
 
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this site has the best session-management that I know of. At least the way AS has vB set up, you blow away record of all unseen posts just by visiting. If you don't check them out in that session, they lose their distinctiveness. The software on this site does the right thing in that respect.

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Yeah, What Glens said, I like that and would miss that.
 
For the past 11 days I've been at my Mom's and she has dial-up only. The load speed is the same for me on this site and any of the other forums that I spend time at. The workings behind the screen are a mystery to me so I can't speak about any technical issues. All I can say is that I haven't had any speed or timing issues here in Dallas.

Thanks for all of the insights, suggestions and support. The remodeling here at the Cafe might take a little while but the goal is to always improve. Hang in there, we'll get things whipped into shape :)
 
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"Additionally, JavaScript and cookies must be enabled for some features to work as intended, although efforts have been made to not require them."

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There are some things that definitely require the power of JavaScript, but I would hope that good design and appropriate HTML/CSS coding would solve most any problem a BB would generate. IE CSS bugs are likely the biggest reason they have to stoop to this level. You know it's an IE driven world and you'll have to buy a new OS to get all the fixes in IE 7! Long live Firefox.

Cary
 
Thanks for the offer Eric. But, unless we lose our sponsors. I'd rather not ask the gang to foot the bill. Just support our sponsors when you can.


If everyone likes the way the Buzz Board works, but just think thast it's slow, then we can solve that. I will look at other servers and such. We were looking at other ideas because the site has been slow, plus it is difficult for our web people to make changes, fix problems and update things.

One other option is to go to the new Infopop software called Groupee

They could easily transport all of our posts and they offer a few new options too. Why don't you all have a look and see what you think of that option.

Thanks for the comments and keep them coming.
 
Groupee isn't a software product, it's an (insane?) total environment. Looking at http://www.groupee.com/plans/ and following the two main links, it would appear that you'd have to go with the "business class" just to be able to bring your current database along with you.

Follow the "business class" link to find http://www.groupee.com/corporate/customers.php and turn off your javascript (you don't really promiscuously surf with it on, do you?), then follow any of the links. Not only do none of the pages "work" (you'll see what I mean) after loading hundreds of kilobytes of data, they don't even come close to validating as HTML. That's real professional, let me tell you.

Starting at $299 / month?

I truly wonder what sort of data mining operations are going on behind the scenes with a setup like they're selling.

Seriously, Mark, let's talk!

Glen
 
Tom and Mark,

I think the software you are using right now is great. I like the way it keeps track of what threads I have and have not looked at. A faster server is all that is needed, in my opinion.
 
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Tom and Mark,

I think the software you are using right now is great. I like the way it keeps track of what threads I have and have not looked at. A faster server is all that is needed, in my opinion.

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I'm not a guru either but my main 2 frustrations have been:

1. speed lately...maybe a faster server will fix that

2. picture posting is tedious being limited to only one pict per post. TH is now at 3...they were at "many" before but must have been getting inundated with pictures (who me??) /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif and now you can post up to 3.
 
I changed the TH attachment to three because it was confusing looking at a bunch in a row.
 
Boy, that's not too easy to follow first time. Thanks for the feedback. I think that we are going to try to perfect the software that we have and upgrade our server first. If we are going to make a big change, we'll talk about it first with you all.
 

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