countryboypa31
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Here you go. A very simple system using stuff we all have. Also rather versatile. I like that it gets away from cutting anything. Let me know what you think.
Lower able basal system
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monkeylove
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I like the concept Derrick, only question I have is what if the canopy climber is twice your size? Am I correct in thinking that it is still a one to one system as far as no MA advantage?
macswan
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Doesn't look like that guy was actually hurt. He sandbagged you man.
I can see that coming in handy. Good thinking Derrick.
ML, you'd be lowering over the tip, most likely a branch union. So you'd have some semblance of MA. If nothing else you could potentially have a bit of friction, especially if there are redirects involved, which I think may have been the case in the video, correct me if I am wrong D money
I can see that coming in handy. Good thinking Derrick.
ML, you'd be lowering over the tip, most likely a branch union. So you'd have some semblance of MA. If nothing else you could potentially have a bit of friction, especially if there are redirects involved, which I think may have been the case in the video, correct me if I am wrong D money
countryboypa31
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We tried it with 100lb weight difference and it worked. We concluded that your more taking stretch out of the rope. You just have to create enough slack to unweight the system. Then either unclipping like in my video. Or if there's a running bowline or equivalent slide it higher to creat more slack to enable you to untie it. When it comes to lowering think about belaying in rock climbing.
rockettree
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- Boulder, CO!
That is a great showcase for a simple and effective system. Great concept and explanation.
My boss challenged me to get away from cutting ropes a couple of years ago and I settled on basically the same system. Although, being very caught up in "SRT everything!" at the time, it never occurred to me to set up the belay side as a doubled rope, funny. I found that when the belay side was setup in a single leg mode it was helpful, maybe even essential, to build in an additional friction/heat sink.
I am no longer in an a work environment where I can confidently use something like this, which has made me question it's value a little bit, but if you have the right people around you I think this ranks up there as one of the better options for the reasons you stated.
If you have no alpine butterfly to work with you can tie a prussik onto the climbers line to accomplish the same thing. It's a bit more complex but once you've put some slack in the line you can put a spike in below it to make it pretty safe.
My boss challenged me to get away from cutting ropes a couple of years ago and I settled on basically the same system. Although, being very caught up in "SRT everything!" at the time, it never occurred to me to set up the belay side as a doubled rope, funny. I found that when the belay side was setup in a single leg mode it was helpful, maybe even essential, to build in an additional friction/heat sink.
I am no longer in an a work environment where I can confidently use something like this, which has made me question it's value a little bit, but if you have the right people around you I think this ranks up there as one of the better options for the reasons you stated.
If you have no alpine butterfly to work with you can tie a prussik onto the climbers line to accomplish the same thing. It's a bit more complex but once you've put some slack in the line you can put a spike in below it to make it pretty safe.
