Looking to trade for petzl rig or somethig similar

[MooseHead]

Like the title says I'm looking to trade for a petzl rig or somthing comparable. I have a couple 100ft pieces of tachyon and a 90ft hank of Velocity. I also have some hrc and a couple pieces of 1/2" endura braid (winch line) that are 90ft and 120ft. If you are interested let me know what you have and maybe we can work somthing out. All my ropes are new and the velocity has a tight eye spliced in it.

 

[MooseHead]

Velocity is pending. Still looking for a rig though.

 

[bonner1040]

The Rig and the Id are dumb , just get a GriGri 1 of ebay or something.

 

[MooseHead]

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The Rig and the Id are dumb , just get a GriGri 1 of ebay or something.

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Dumb I can handle just as long as they are not stupid. Thanks for the tip I'll keep it in mind. If a gri gri comes a long first then ill give it a try. Same goes for the rig or ID.

 

[livefreeordie]

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The Rig and the Id are dumb , just get a GriGri 1 of ebay or something.

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The GriGri is not approved for use as a ground anchor or to be attached to anything other then a climber, so if that is your intended use then an I'd or a Rig is better suited for this purpose.

 

[flyingsquirrel25]

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The Rig and the Id are dumb , just get a GriGri 1 of ebay or something.

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The GriGri is not approved for use as a ground anchor or to be attached to anything other then a climber, so if that is your intended use then an I'd or a Rig is better suited for this purpose.

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A little more information on this would be great. I havent heard anything saying its not approved for this application. I dont use it a whole lot unless one of the other climbers on the crew sets it up on an access line and I am following them up. But the rest of the crew uses it quite frequently. I know it creaps a bit when it is loaded and unloaded repeatedly, but we put a marlin spike on the tail of the rope to prevent it from going anywhere. Thanks I appreciate any information you can give me.

 

[Crazy_Jimmy]

I could be wrong but I think its on the instructions.

 

[Crazy_Jimmy]

Which I never read

 

[hesanarborist]

I don't know how you can consider the device "dumb" and then recommend a gri gri. IMO the RIG is a far better solution to the gri gri when it comes to a work positioning tool, I won't give mine up. For a tree worker looking for this type of device I highly recommend the RIG.

I believe the Gri Gri is only approved as a belay device by a belay person. However on the petzl website you can see a video of a chair lift rescue where the rescuer is work positioning off a gri gri..interesting.

 

[flyingsquirrel25]

Thanks jimmy. I thought that was going to be the answer. I glanced at them and don't have them anymore. I used it for a basil tie situation for quite some time (something I saw mark show in a class). I seldom use it now due to other systems and set ups I now use. I just don't want to make sure because I know others that still use it regularly.
There is no such thing as a dumb device... they all have their uses. Its the individual that uses it wrong that's dumb

 

[livefreeordie]

i was informed of this my mark bridge and mark chisholm at thier recent intensive aerial rescue class in new jersey. i had been using the gri gri for a basal tie off with a srt setup and they informed me that this was no longer an approved practice. apparently there is something in the devices instructions stating this. i have just been spreading the word because i was unaware of this until very recently and i know of a great deal of people that are using this device in the same manner as i was....unfortunately it looks like i need to change up my basal anchor setup, but better safe then sorry. this is all just my two cents do with it what you will and climb safe everyone

 

[Adam_P]

Moose I've got a grigri 1 I'd part with if you decide you want one.

 

[bonner1040]

The Rig and the ID are just larger overbuilt GriGri's. The work position off a GriGri that was mentioned was likely a Grillion.

You can all use what you want, but a GriGri is more than capable of any of the tasks you would use a Rig or an ID for, except possibly primary rescue, which it will work but the Rig or ID may be better suited for.

For RADS Srt, lowering small loads, hauling, mechanical advantage, tensioning lines, rappel, crane work, self belay, or many other things the GriGri is IMHO far better than the larger heavier ID or RIg. Plus I am not a fan of the plastic biner traps on the other units.

GriGri's have been used and put to the test for over 2 decades. Besides rock climbing lead-belay accidents (user error), I am not aware of any failure associated with the device.

The Rig and ID may not be stupid, but they 'dumbed down' the function of the GriGri.

 

[MooseHead]

Still looking. Velocity and 90ft endura braid are gone.