Lock stitch for splice on Velocity

[jiujitsudave]

I recently ordered a velocity climbing line for one of my guys from samson with a spliced eye and it came back with no lock stitching. I called and asked about this and was told they don't normally lock stitch this line. On their web site they advise that you do. I know that Southern chapter climbing events will NOT allow you to climb unless your eye splice is lock stitched, any thoughts on this would be appreciated!!

 

[Tr33Climb3r]

Yea I would push for an exchange.

 

[Blinky]

I've never bought Velocity pre-spliced so I can't speak to whether it should be (according to Samson) or not.

I can tell yu that whiplocking that splice is pretty simple. Yale has excellent whiplock instructions on their site, Nick has superior instructions on his. It would be simpler to go ahead and stitch it yourself than to send it back and wait for an exchange.

 

[Norm_Hall]

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I recently ordered a velocity climbing line for one of my guys from samson with a spliced eye and it came back with no lock stitching. I called and asked about this and was told they don't normally lock stitch this line. On their web site they advise that you do. I know that Southern chapter climbing events will NOT allow you to climb unless your eye splice is lock stitched, any thoughts on this would be appreciated!!

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Ask Samson to send you documentation about Velocity NOT needing to be lock stitched or whipped.
I've asked the same question and gotten the same response from Samson.

 

[moray]

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...will NOT allow you to climb unless your eye splice is lock stitched, any thoughts on this would be appreciated!!

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Even though I am a big fan of lock stitching and always use it on hollow-braid splices, I am with Samson on this one. The splice cover is so tight in the first few inches of the splice that a large amount of friction between cover and core is present all the time. The thing is not going to come apart from flopping around in normal use if you can't pull it apart with your two hands and all your strength.

Under load, all that initial friction means the splice can support a substantial load before even thinking about coming apart, and by then, all the rest of the splice is clamping down on the core as well.