Just "fixed" the weak spot in my rigging system

Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

Hi!
I have just found a way to "fix" the weak spot in my climbing system. :-)
Found this metal thingy (don't know the english word), that I can put my ringging knot through, to eleminate the sharp bend over the carabiner.
Have anyone of you guys tried that???
And how do you attach your rigging rope to the wood you're rigging?
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Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

Are we to understang that without this metal thingy, your usual method for tying off loads uses a carabiner?

I thought you guys were safe in Denmark!

I use a couple half hitches with a timber hitch lock off, rope only.

jomoco
 
Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

It should work now.
I use a 50 or 70 kn carabiner combined with a "cranesling" with a swl (!) of 2 ton. That should be pretty safe, isn't it?!
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Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

I get it Peder, but your application is for crane work, not dynamic slap around rigging from the tree.

Sorry, I misunderstood your intended application.

jomoco
 
Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

Hey Jomoco.
I know what you mean - but it is the rigging rope and the sling that attaches the block that takes almost all the dynamic force. I assume you are consearned about the "crane sling"? I know it is ment for static lifting - but the safe working load is way (!) higher than the other components in the system, so I am pretty sure it is a far safer choise than sling tied of rigging rope or similar.
Or am I completely off track here...? :-)
Climb safe..!
 
Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

You have a "thimble" on your climbline.

I've thought about using one.

Anyone else use one on their climbline, or does the climber's weight come in so low as compared to the SWL of the climbline that it doesnt' matter? I was wondering about this as well for my rigging line with a 5" factory-spliced eye on a 9/16th inch double braid. What thimbles do people use for that?

I usually terminate my rope to my harness with a barrel knot/ "1/2 of a triple fisherman's knot", so there isn't really a place for the thimble.
 
Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

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You have a "thimble" on your climbline.

I've thought about using one.

Anyone else use one on their climbline, or does the climber's weight come in so low as compared to the SWL of the climbline that it doesnt' matter? I was wondering about this as well for my rigging line with a 5" factory-spliced eye on a 9/16th inch double braid. What thimbles do people use for that?

I usually terminate my rope to my harness with a barrel knot/ "1/2 of a triple fisherman's knot", so there isn't really a place for the thimble.

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Hi. Thanks for the new word "thimble" :-)
By the way it is my RIGGING line I am using it on. I have spliced eyes on my climbing lines.... Wy use it on a climbing line?
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Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

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Hey Jomoco.
I know what you mean - but it is the rigging rope and the sling that attaches the block that takes almost all the dynamic force. I assume you are consearned about the "crane sling"? I know it is ment for static lifting - but the safe working load is way (!) higher than the other components in the system, so I am pretty sure it is a far safer choise than sling tied of rigging rope or similar.
Or am I completely off track here...? :-)
Climb safe..!

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When I'm doing crane removals I like steel chokers and a clevis for medium to heavy picks, but these are low dynamic controlled picks.

I kinda jumped Reg's case when I watched one of his vids of a highly dynamic takedown in which he tied off his loads with two half hitches and steel biner lock-off. This struck me as being improper rigging because each load would crash into the lowering spar with enough violence that had the primary impact against the spar been applied to that steel biner, serious damage would have been inflicted on either the biner or the rope. I can see steel on steel being able to withstand that kind of dynamic impact, but steel on rope?

I'm paranoid enough in these situations to explicitly avoid sharp or rough wood edges that could cut/wear my bull lines and adding steel into that dynamic mix is unnecessary in my opinion.

So when I'm doing highly dynamic takedowns that involve lots of loads crashing into spars and slapping about, I avoid any steel in my load tie-offs and use only pure rope terminations, generally two half hitches locked off with a timber hitch.

Two separate applications, and two distinctly separate rigging methods.

I like your rigging for controlled crane work, but question it's use in highly dynamic rigging use in the tree itself without a crane.

jomoco
 
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I thought you guys were safe in Denmark!


jomoco

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Just because people share a nationality, doesn't mean they share other traits.
We've got plenty of unsafe tree guys here, just like you do in the US.
 
Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

Sorry Stig, would it have helped had I put a smiley face after my sentence?

jomoco
 
Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

Maybe I should put one after mine, Jon.
I meant to be sort of tounge in cheek: I have a right to be unsafe, even if I'm danish.
It didn't quite come out that way, sorry.
 
Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging system

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I thought you guys were safe in Denmark!


jomoco

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Just because people share a nationality, doesn't mean they share other traits.
We've got plenty of unsafe tree guys here, just like you do in the US.

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I believe it to be the same in ever part of the world. (from what I've seen)
 
Re: Just \"fixed\" the weak spot in my rigging syste

A sharp bend where the rope goes over a carabiner will weaken the rope, but there are two strands of rope leaving the carabiner. The two weakened strands are stronger than one non-weakened strand. The weak point in the setup you picture is where a single strand comes out of the knot.

The thimble is useful for preventing wear.
 

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