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B_Strange said:
Great! Who do you use?
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My policy is through Crum & Forrester out of NJ. My agent is local to NY and they have to use an insurance broker from VA called R-T Specality. From what I learned, there are not many that offer tree service and logging policies. Might just be a NY thing idk. But it gives me the ability to go logging if I need the coverage. The tree service is the more expensive part of the policy but it's likely where I will make most of my money so I thought it was best to get covered for both.
 
Birdyman88 said:
really learn the art of cutting and chucking; of catching on a sling/rope and chucking; and of making really thoughtful cuts and just dropping in place.
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That’s my recommendation too. Getting more comfortable climbing will eventually allow you to get farther out and cut smaller pieces to handle while feeling stable.
 
Marshy said:
My biggest shortcoming is probably the fact that I'm working without a groundie. If anyon has good advice how to manage rigging with little to no ground help i would appreciate it.
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blackwall carabiners

These may have some use in rigging down branches if you have nobody on the ground. Appear to be a kickstarter campaign so nothing available today. Anyone else come across this?
www.treebuzz.com


Starting at post #8 in this thread is my preferred solo rigging. It works well with a variety of aerial frictions. Another tip for no ground help is to try and use as short of ropes as possible for your work. The less rope on the ground the less chance of getting tangled up as the brush starts piling up.

I also agree with the above on learning different cuts and how to steer the wood to avoid obstacles. These skills are important with or without a groundie.
 
Hey all,
Got to hang out with @Marshy today while he worked on a dead ash removal.
About time I finally met someone from this forum in person.
Enjoyed watching someone else do tree work for a change.
First time I ever seen someone climbing on a Blake's hitch.
I must have missed that step along the way in my progression. :p

Finally figured out why it's hard to keep a good groundie around.
They must all get tired of having a stiff neck at the end of the day.

I really enjoyed hanging out with Wade that I ended up missing the Cowboy's game.
So glad it slipped my mind. :nocausagracia:

Good job today Wade. (y)
 
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dsptech said:
Hey all,
Got to hang out with @Marshy today while he worked on a dead ash removal.
About time I finally met someone from this forum in person.
Enjoyed watching someone else do tree work for a change.
First time I ever seen someone climbing on a Blake's hitch.
I must have missed that step along the way in my progression. :p

Finally figured out why it's hard to keep a good groundie around.
They must all get tired of having a stiff neck at the end of the day.

I really enjoyed hanging out with Wade that I ended up missing the Cowboy's game.
So glad it slipped my mind. :nocausagracia:

Good job today Wade. (y)
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Thanks Dave, it was nice to meet you and your help was clutch. Having someone on the ground to that knows enough to offer good advice is invaluable to a noob like myself.
 
Some thing that really helped me in the beginning, is to make a plan of how you are going to do the tree.

Where am i going to tie in.
High central lead to help with rope angles to get out on to the tips of the limbs if need be.

Where am i going to set my main rigging point. You may have to move it around the canopy. I prefer to set it up once. You may need to set it up in a way that will help you swing the brush and wood over an obstacle.

What limbs need to come off first.
Etc.

You may not be able at first to plan the whole tree out and things may change once your in the tree. When i bid work i have for the most part taken the tree down or trimmed it in my head. Makes my bids more accurate.
 
jmester said:
Some thing that really helped me in the beginning, is to make a plan of how you are going to do the tree.

Where am i going to tie in.
High central lead to help with rope angles to get out on to the tips of the limbs if need be.

Where am i going to set my main rigging point. You may have to move it around the canopy. I prefer to set it up once. You may need to set it up in a way that will help you swing the brush and wood over an obstacle.

What limbs need to come off first.
Etc.

You may not be able at first to plan the whole tree out and things may change once your in the tree. When i bid work i have for the most part taken the tree down or trimmed it in my head. Makes my bids more accurate.
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Thanks, I'm sure with experience it will come more natural. I need to remember to leave some stubs up high near some medium sized unions so that I have them as a rigging option... Thanks for your advice.
 
A x rigging safebloc may be an option for you. It would give you the flexibility to put your rigging point any where. It would also help in giving a consistent amount of friction.

I really like and use quite often a small portawrap. In the canopy. I can control and lower from my position.
 
jmester said:
A x rigging safebloc may be an option for you. It would give you the flexibility to put your rigging point any where. It would also help in giving a consistent amount of friction.

I really like and use quite often a small portawrap. In the canopy. I can control and lower from my position.
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Funny, I just bought one last night. I was considering a rigging wrench but the more I learned about the safebloc the more it seemed to fit my needs and I like the versatility when combined with a portawrap.
 
For anyone following this, I just bought some rigging equipment;
200' of 1/2" Nystron
Safebloc loopie (3-5')
Notch V3 Quickie (x2)
Throw Line kit (no more mason line lol)

I was thinking about a Notch Rapid Rig but a Daisy chain knot is so fast that I think Im going to hold off for now.

Next I'll be looking at adding a portawrap. I have to do some research on those before I purchase. I'd like to see a video of how someone might use the portawrap in the canopy like @jmester is describing.
 
Marshy said:
. I'd like to see a video of how someone might use the portawrap in the canopy like @jmester is describing.
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There's basically two ways to use it, that I'm aware of.

One is to use it as your rigging point, in place of a block or safebloc, this does mean that you will be running the porta wrap upside down. No big deal, just double check your orientation

The other is setup exactly like normal except the porta wrap is tied in the canopy in a convenient location instead of at the base of the tree. The rope then runs up to your anchor point and then to the piece to be rigged. I've run this setup many times when working from a bucket truck.
 
Jehinten said:
There's basically two ways to use it, that I'm aware of.

One is to use it as your rigging point, in place of a block or safebloc, this does mean that you will be running the porta wrap upside down. No big deal, just double check your orientation

The other is setup exactly like normal except the porta wrap is tied in the canopy in a convenient location instead of at the base of the tree. The rope then runs up to your anchor point and then to the piece to be rigged. I've run this setup many times when working from a bucket truck.
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Makes sense. I was looking at the mini... have to put more consideration in to the loads I'll be working with and the equipment ratings. Mini might not be ideal if I want to use it down on the ground as well. Thanks.
 
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