International 4300 "super singles"?

climbhightree · Jun 9, 2016

With my setup I rarely venture on lawn, but sometimes you have no choice.

I'm finding that the stock tires on an international 4300 are murderous to lawns...mostly ruts. Has anyone put on wider front tires and/or super singles on the rear (in place of duallies)?

If so how effective are they against making ruts? How do they handle in snow/ice/mud?

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climbhightree · Jun 9, 2016

Levi.CO said:
I sunk a chip truck with super singles up to the axles in mud.

I would think that the same, or worse would have happened with duals. Narrow tall tires are designed to dig through the mud to form ground underneath. While wise tires are designed to float the top...least for off-roading.

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Jeff · Jun 9, 2016

climbhightree said:
I'm finding that the stock tires on an international 4300 are murderous to lawns...mostly ruts

With our 4300's, it's not the factory duals that are so bad; it's the fronts that do the majority of the rut digging. Curious to hear other's results, beyond Levi's bragging about how low he can go.

climbhightree · Jun 9, 2016

Jeff said:
With our 4300's, it's not the factory duals that are so bad; it's the fronts that do the majority of the rut digging. Curious to hear other's results, beyond Levi's bragging about how low he can go.

I totally agree, the front tires are the biggest culprit. Switching them to a wider tire (like to what's on a 7600...or even in between) would be a huge improvement.

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tc262 · Jun 10, 2016

The biggest culprit on my bucket is the Mohawk left in the lawn between the duals. I've been watching craigslist for super singles for awhile now.

AxeTree · Jun 10, 2016

I have Been told supers are not good at all in the winter on a single axle truck had a guy tell me it's Down right scary if the roads are bad. I do not know first hand tho

Jeff · Jun 10, 2016

tc262 said:
the Mohawk left in the lawn between the duals

I don't mind the dual Mohawk, because it's pretty easy to stomp down and fill in the 2 depressions that caused it. But the front tire rut, especially if you have to make a hard turn...

frashdog · Jun 13, 2016

We have flotation steers on our 4900 bucket truck. They do help. They don't "cut in" like narrow tires do. Still, nothing compares to ground pro.

We live in farm country around here. The big farms drive tractor trailers and other trucks out in the fields when harvesting silage and spreading manure. They all have super wide flotation tires on the drive axles. They drive on the roads over 45mph too. Bigger then super singles. I don't think super singles are really designed for flotation as much as they are for mileage and cost effectiveness when compared to duals.

Lumberjack · Jun 13, 2016

Floats on the front axle are more prone to slide in a turn on mud or similar conditions. Your truck being a single axle will turn easier than my tandem/tri.

I've thought about singles on the back of my grapple truck, but a single flat would park the truck.

Alturnamats are the easiest way to get in a yard. I have 80 4x8 for just that!

climbhightree · Jun 13, 2016

Lumberjack said:
Floats on the front axle are more prone to slide in a turn on mud or similar conditions. Your truck being a single axle will turn easier than my tandem/tri.

I've thought about singles on the back of my grapple truck, but a single flat would park the truck.

Alturnamats are the easiest way to get in a yard. I have 80 4x8 for just that!

Yeah I'm slightly worried about changing the dual to a wide single, it is nice being able to limp somewhere if you blow out only one rear tire.

The mats would work, but for me that would be another vehicle for that many.

Right now I carry about 14 sheets of plywood. But they are only 3/8" thick, which is plenty for the mini...but not enough for the truck though.

I am taking the truck to international in July, for service. I'll have to ask them about wider tires then.

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Lumberjack · Jun 14, 2016

I don't keep any mats on the truck, I only take them when I need them.

I can carry the mats in the bed of the truck, or more often, on the front of the trailer. We use a loader to set mats out, takes a lot of the work out of it, especially if you have three people (one in the loader and two setting them off and flipping them on). Setting them out I'll carry up to 50, picking them up we set the stack down when we get to 25 to make it easier to flip on.

Lumberjack · Jun 14, 2016

Here's 50 mats in the truck. Carrying them in the truck is less idea as they can slide around and picking them out takes a bit of hand work usually. Not much, but aside from taking the straps off, the trailer is labor free.