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Cutting dead pines today. Got cocky with what "I" could do with dead pines, and the one I was working on broke straight backwards. Cut too much hinge, was rushing to finish, didn't take the lean seriously. Thankfully straight back was the second best place for the tree, but uncontrolled fells are a no no. Anyway, felt like I should tell on myself somewhere and not keep it quiet for ego's sake.
 
Had a good sized pole almost hit my buddies skid steer last year it was short but my butt hole was pretty puckered. About 40 ft tall 25"+ diameter pretty much dead straight, made a good face cut good backcut driving my wedge in to tip it just lifted straight up and fell sideways, dead trees are weird.
 
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Live and learn, we all do.
Yeah, it’s embarrassing after years of learning and solid experience and even teaching others how to do it. Mad at myself for being dumb about it for time’s sake, which is usually the first step down the slippery slope toward an incident. Looking back, I was totally distracted on this job because the homeowner was hovering for most of it. My solution was to push through and get out ASAP. If I had paused, I could have been honest with myself about my headspace and corrected, but I just trudged on…
 
Yeah, it’s embarrassing after years of learning and solid experience and even teaching others how to do it. Mad at myself for being dumb about it for time’s sake, which is usually the first step down the slippery slope toward an incident. Looking back, I was totally distracted on this job because the homeowner was hovering for most of it. My solution was to push through and get out ASAP. If I had paused, I could have been honest with myself about my headspace and corrected, but I just trudged on…
That's a really interesting point. I still don't know how to politely get rid of the hovering homeowner.
 
Live and learn, we all do.
Ehhhh....not all live and some never learn.

I've cut through my hinge before. Second to last tree of about 300 on a lot clearing job. Already 13 hours in (I had estimated 10). Rushing. Tired. Twilight so visibility was poor. Thought everything was fine until it wasn't. Slow motion fall right toward the house. Thankfully it was just a skinny 6" poplar and a glancing blow, but it was enough to bend the eavestrough in a couple of spots. The lady of the house, who was getting ready for bed in the room where the tree hit, shrieked loud enough for me hear over the noise of the chipper.
 
If it's dangerous I don't have any problem sending people off.
That’s good. Thing is though, what’s dangerous? In my opinion, pretty much everything we do is dangerous, so we chase everyone away. “Excuse me sir, but that is not a good place to stand because you could be (squished/hit/run over). Could you please go stand over there, by that red mailbox? You will be safer there.”
 
Explain that you are continuously analyzing the everchanging situation and are always one step gone wrong away from ruin. Explain that often, people think that tree workers are doing the least, when they are doing the most. Standing there, not in physical motion is an indicator that your are quite possibly deeply in mental motion. Tell them that they are causing you a distraction and its endangering you. The more they hover, the more likely you will be hurt or have a problem/ damage.
 
Yeah, it’s embarrassing after years of learning and solid experience and even teaching others how to do it. Mad at myself for being dumb about it for time’s sake, which is usually the first step down the slippery slope toward an incident. Looking back, I was totally distracted on this job because the homeowner was hovering for most of it. My solution was to push through and get out ASAP. If I had paused, I could have been honest with myself about my headspace and corrected, but I just trudged on…

I make a point of politely advising my clients that although it is their property, today it's my job site and since I'm ultimately responsible for everyones safety, I have to be the final authority for what takes place and who enters my work area. Aside from my mom, I've never had any problems with a client once I make that statement.
 
Ehhhh....not all live and some never learn.

I've cut through my hinge before. Second to last tree of about 300 on a lot clearing job. Already 13 hours in (I had estimated 10). Rushing. Tired. Twilight so visibility was poor. Thought everything was fine until it wasn't. Slow motion fall right toward the house. Thankfully it was just a skinny 6" poplar and a glancing blow, but it was enough to bend the eavestrough in a couple of spots. The lady of the house, who was getting ready for bed in the room where the tree hit, shrieked loud enough for me hear over the noise of the chipper.
I have a motto that I live by..."Fatigue makes idiots out of all of house."

A 13 hour tree day is way too long for this type of work, better and safer to come back the next day.
 
From ANSI Z133 (2017)

3.4.5 The arborist in charge shall establish a plan to safely manage the worksite.
3.4.6 When dropping or lowering trunks, branches, fruit or equipment, a landing area (drop zone) should be designated.
3.4.6.1 People and valuable objects shall be protected or excluded from the drop zone when active.

I included italics to draw attention to the words should and shall.

In short, the arborist in charge of the worksite/drop zone has a clear mandate to exclude uninvolved persons from the work area for safety reasons.
 
Yeah, it’s embarrassing after years of learning and solid experience and even teaching others how to do it. Mad at myself for being dumb about it for time’s sake, which is usually the first step down the slippery slope toward an incident. Looking back, I was totally distracted on this job because the homeowner was hovering for most of it. My solution was to push through and get out ASAP. If I had paused, I could have been honest with myself about my headspace and corrected, but I just trudged on…
That is an excellent example of self analysis.. That's crucial for safety. I've seen guys act way too casual when something goes wrong... "Oops.. well that fence won't be hard to fix".... they blow off their mistakes until they make a big one...

Proper self-inquiry includes questions like "what was I thinking?" ( going through the entire thought process from start to finish), where did I ignore my intuition. (you probably had a thought somewhere along the line that this isn't right). Why did you blow that off? What was the thought process or choices that that most directly lead to the unexpected outcome? What could have been done differently? Was this in any way a communication issue and how can that be corrected (takes at least two people to get on the same page).. It's best to do all that not only when something goes wrong, but also when something unexpected happens...

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY .. WHAT CAN I LEARN FROM THIS
 
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