How does Coronavirus COVID-19 alter our workflow?

VenasNursery said:
I hate to admit it but I think a lockdown for 2 -3 weeks martial law

Arrested if you leave your residence

Face our problem head on and shut it down
I think it’s going to happen so do it know before the numbers get worse

I want to get past this chapter in life and not drag it out
Just my 2 cents
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I actually agree, but leave the power dynamic out if it. We need every fucken person to take this seriously and to ground their asses.
 
How effective can widespread testing be? As this story from Financial Times indicates: pretty damn effective. A single village was selected for an experiment in which every member of the 3,300-person community was tested. Those results were then used to isolate those who tested positive. The result: in an Italy where new cases were skyrocketing, the town at the center of this experiment produced zero new infections. Zero. As the director-general of the World Health Organization said this week, “Our key message is: test, test, test.”

And, we managed to break the 5,000 mark, then the 6,000 mark on confirmed cases in a single day, as well as 100 deaths.

It's on, bitches!

We went to four different grocery stores and one Walmart today, looking for milk and eggs. No such luck. It's amazing how empty the shelves are. We only found two loaves of bread, and the lady there told us that their supplier says there won't be any left in the state within a couple of days. Unreal.

Luckily, we have some friends who have a huge laying hen flock, and they can't sell their eggs until this is all over, so they gave us four hens. We were only a day's work away from having our coop/flightpen ready, so the timing was good. We have two freezers full of meat, and we canned up a lot this fall, so we're well stocked. Probably 60 quarts of fruit we canned, two dozen quart jars of canned chicken, a lot of vegetables... at least 30 quarts. We gave a few quarts of peaches and pears to the couple that gave us the laying hens.

We're not preppers, but we do like growing/preserving our own food. We just produce more than we can eat. I have a feeling that might turn out to be a good thing, this year. There are lots of folks in these two little towns who really aren't prepared at all for the food shortages.

Tonight, we're going to bake some bread. Luckily, that's another thing we've come to enjoy, and we're well-stocked on ingredients. Our lifestyle changes weren't based on expecting a pandemic, but it certainly is good to know that we could self-quarantine for two months, if it came to that.
 
cerviarborist said:
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If it works, you’ll be rich!

On another funny note, my mother (a nurse at a nursing home) gave me a package of homemade hand sanitizer wipes, basically paper towel squares, in a bag with a 50/50 mix of 182 proof and hand lotion. She handed it over with the statement that I may “smell like an intoxicated cherry, but I will be sanitized.”
 
This could very well turn out to be worse than anything we have seen so far but in truth it is not there. What we do have is a simply astounding display of unmitigated fear.

Keep in mind the below numbers, and that the common flu strains have been killing hundreds of thousands, evey year, for decades! Yet the world is still here.

www.worldometers.info

Coronavirus Update (Live): 129,288,050 Cases and 2,822,235 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
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  • "Every year an estimated 290,000 to 650,000 people die in the world due to complications from seasonal influenza (flu) viruses. This figure corresponds to 795 to 1,781 deaths per day due to the seasonal flu.
  • SARS (November 2002 to July 2003): was a coronavirus that originated from Beijing, China, spread to 29 countries, and resulted in 8,096 people infected with 774 deaths (fatality rate of 9.6%). Considering that SARS ended up infecting 5,237 people in mainland China, Wuhan Coronavirus surpassed SARS on January 29, 2020, when Chinese officials confirmed 5,974 cases of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). One day later, on January 30, 2020 the novel coronavirus cases surpassed even the 8,096 cases worldwide which were the final SARS count in 2003.
  • MERS (in 2012) killed 858 people out of the 2,494 infected (fatality rate of 34.4%)."
 
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It's like we are set up for a certain consistent load of tree work. We like to be three weeks out. Then a big storm hits and all of a sudden we have to make decisions on what trees are more of a priority.

With this, The victims are not only the corona cases but also every other case. There are only so many beds and doctors.
 
treebing said:
... I find the response to this as totally appropriate. It's not panic...
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Hoarding food and supplies, leaving others with nothing but bare shelves is "appropriate"?

Using a pandemic to advance personal and political agendas is "appropriate"?

Hospitals are flooded annually with hundreds of thousands of flu victims needing icu care, it fluctuates wildly. We are not in peak flu season and the numbers with this new virus are vastly smaller. Why has this become a global immobilizer?
 
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Waiting for the first wave to strengthen (or not) in eastern Mass. I'm in Middlesex County, the current hot spot for Massachusetts. Our first case confirmed early on was a student at U. Mass. Boston (Suffolk County) who had been in China. The next cases were a group of Biogen (big bio/pharma company) employees at a Boston conference which included attendees from Europe. There was quite a bit of delay from when they had symptoms to when they were tested. This was early on when federal and state guidelines said only recent arrivals from Asia with symptoms would be tested. Biogen requested testing for their symptomatic employees and were turned down. In that delay it spread it into the more affluent bedroom communities where many of them live, which includes Middlesex County. Over the next 3-4 days we'll see if everyone practicing social distancing and all the event, school, and public-facing business closures will blunt the current expansion of the virus. Drive-through testing is finally ramping up so there will be a big bump in the numbers infected since a bunch of people potentially symptomatic didn't know if it was seasonal flu or Covid-19.

Continuing to work as normal, down to two rolls, did not order the "bum gun", just not ready for that level of response!

Tip pruning yesterday, appropriately separated from other humans. No change from pre-pandemic days as long as people still have some money laying around.

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-AJ
 
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DSMc said:
Hoarding food and supplies, leaving others with nothing but bare shelves is "appreciate"?

Using a pandemic to advance personal and political agendas is "appropriate"?

Hospitals are flooded annually with hundreds of thousands of flu victims needing icu care, it fluctuates wildly. We are not in peak flu season and the numbers with this new virus are vastly smaller. Why has this become a global immobilizer?
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I've been looking into this also. Ive come to the conclusion that Covid is much more lethal than the flu and will spread much faster and easier since we have no vaccine or herd immunity.

This is scary:

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Hundreds of thousands of deaths even if we lock it all down for 18 months or more. 2.2 million if we do nothing. 1.1 if we do as we are currently. Just a forecast, but from a respected source. 18 months will crush the world economy and change life forever. Not possible for most people financially or physically (food).
 
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