Homeowners' grip about utility tree trimming

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I believe that the drive to clear distribution and transmission lines further is driven by Federal requlations...FARQ is an acronym that comes to mind. After the grid shutdown a few years ago the Government stepped back into a regulatory position and told the utility owners to get things straightened out.

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Tom, NERC web page is mostly for bulk power systems, transmission systems. But it will not be long before they are looking at distribution systems as well. Those utilities that are not prepared will be in a world of hurt, and their customers will suffer as well.

FERC web page is also a regulating source, but their forum is spread thin among other energy sources including gas and oil as well.



Oh and the grid shut down, trees were a main contributor in that. A customer would not let the utility do what they needed to do to keep the lines clear. And it was ultimately an engineers fault.
 
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I am not a fan of underground utilities myself, especially after my linesman days. Go out thumping lines in the middle of night during a snowstorm, and then try to excavate frozen ground where you THINK the fault is. It sucks! BUT, in other parts of the country I think underground is the way to go, no frost, little rain, etc etc like Arizona for instance.

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Little rain... come here when we have 4 feet of snow on the ground or monsoons in the summer. No all AZ is low elevation desert and even then they can get a good amount of rain in no time. I do agree we get little to no frost. We still thump our lines as far as I have seen, linemen can be a hard breed to change. We try and have 10 feet to the sides on distribution and no overhang, though a good part of our work is on Ponderosa pines and unfortunately Siberian elms. Underground works for the most part but what about trenching to put in new lines in the R.O.W. that had overhead, right through the trees, trust me they are not going to bore.
 
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LMAO JJ... most people can't relate snow and ice to Arizona.

I remember Phoenix not raining often, but when it did... watch out!
 
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Seems like a major hazard to homeowner and worker to have above ground lines...big killer of tree dudes.

Makes as much sense as having above ground septic lines.
 
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Seems like a major hazard to homeowner and worker to have above ground lines...big killer of tree dudes.

Makes as much sense as having above ground septic lines.

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They are a hazard, so are trucks, cars, motorcycles, power tools, chainsaws, etc.....

But when used and maintained properly they are safe and more efficient. U/G is just as dangerous when homeowners are out in the back yard digging and find an underground primary by mistake. At least you can see the overhead lines.
 
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Seems like a major hazard to homeowner and worker to have above ground lines...big killer of tree dudes.

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Not necessarily.
 
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True, not so dangerous if regs. are followed. Stll alot of electrocutions yearly?

When any digging goes on here you call USA, free service.
 
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True, not so dangerous if regs. are followed. Stll alot of electrocutions yearly?

When any digging goes on here you call USA, free service.

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Yes some people do get electrocuted. But usually they are taking chances that are not necessary and get caught.

The U/G locating service is free and provided by the utilities in the area. But some people do not want to wait the 2 days for them to get out there and locate the lines and pipes.
 
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