Going too far?

I resigned because we did very little with trees and tree education. The Tree City sign still stands in Hillsborough even though we haven't met the requirements for years. It just wasn't what I thought it would be. Trying to work with other governmental and non-governmental orgs was impossible because everybody was protecing their budgets.
Once a couple of people leave I may try to rejoin.
 
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I called the church and sent a proposal to help with an appeal based on restoration pruning as done for the car dealer here. only 2 hours away, and i have other goals for such a trip.
yes coppicing works with these but A the city would not go for it and B there would be 99 jillion sprouts to manage, and C i'm not sure of the learning curve of the guy who has been cutting them to date.
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Yeah, In Toronto your not allowed to cut down or remove substantial sections of anything over 20cm dbh without a permit, which requires an arborist report written by either an ISA Certified Arborist or a Certified Provincial Arborist.

This is great news, its one step in the direction of getting hacks off our turf. Take some pride in the protection of our professionalism. Theres a reason why I get paid far less than the going union rate of 26/hour (only available if you work with hydro or a municipality) and its called competitive pricing. I mean anyone with a chainsaw can do our job right? And we can just show up and do hydro's work because we work with trees right? We're bound by rules, so should the rest of the public.

We put our lives on the line in the worst conditions everyday and for what? Just for the love of the job? I've got bills to pay and a future to think of. Maybe people will start taking our profession a little more seriously; because unless its a hazardous mitigation circumstance, I get the vibe that all the sweat, time and effort I put into this trade is a bit of a joke when I see a home owner standing on a ladder with an electric chainsaw doing what "I do."
 
Treeness, you don't see a H.O. doing what you do, you see them doing exactly what shouldn't be done. When I worked in T.O. I would use stories of DIY gone bad to illustrate the need for a professional. Because of the city's efforts to protect trees, from the Private Tree bylaws, the city tree bylaws, the ravine protection act there is a fair bit of awareness with the consumer there. Which part of Toronto do you work in?
 
I've only done a few side jobs in Toronto, I work pretty far west from Toronto actually. But It's good to bone up on all the ordinances in and around the GTA because they are all fairly different (Toronto being the strictest). For instance in Oakville your allowed to remove 4 trees on your property, per year, under 75cm dbh without filling out an arborist report; you need to however let the city know so they can give you a notice permit (I forget what its actually called). Anymore trees being removed in that year require an arborist report regardless of dbh... from my understanding.

Another perfect example is my neighbour who tore down the TPZ around his crappy ash trees in front of his yard while he is building his monstrosity of a house. To add he parked equipment over the root zone, flooded the root zone, turned the soil, back filled and no parks his cars in the makeshift driveway... Unless I squeal on him I highly doubt anything will happen to him... The trees should be dead by the end of this season. Kind of a moral conscience vs. professional duty thing going on there.

You are right home owners can't do what we do, however to back up what I was saying, two fire fighters took down a honey locust three doors down from I was working today... I love what I do, but I still feel like the time and effort I've put into this trade thus far and haven't got me very far, and truthfully speaking, I feel like I'm spinning my wheels in the mud.
 
Wow. That fine is steep since a quick search for the pruning of Crepe Myrtle you get this:

http://www.ehow.com/how_4472094_prune-crepe-myrtle.html

Also if they cut back to the knuckles then this could be considered pollarding.

I am personally not a fan of Crepe Murder and prefer its natural form.

Time for the Church to lawyer up with a bull-dog paid only with profit attorney.

The forester should have seen the previous cuts and educated.
 
wow this is crazy ! i am against topping and improper pruning , but we do not need more goverment in our lives . do you really think goverment knows trees ? it is up to the indivdual to educate themselves and make an informed decision . what about people who plant or sell trees/plants that are not indigious to that area . should they be fined too ? how do fines help people ? it doesnt just gives more money to the goverment to waste . think about it guys and gals whenever gov gets involved it always get f**ked up . history has proven that time and time again . what if you cut your flowers wrong or someone plants them in the wrong place should they be fined ? educate yourself and keep greedy gov out .
 
Trees, viewed as infrastructure significantly reduce city expenditures for stormwater runoff mitigation, heat island reduction, air quality and cooling, far beyond visual aesthetics.

Governments are beginning to finally understand this (because we've been telling them for years) and so progressive municipalities have enacted laws to protect trees, so that taxpayers can ultimately spend less tax money on stormwater retention, and energy, to name just a couple line items.

Homeowners should become educated, but in the meantime, it makes sense for the greater good of the community, to dissuade homeowners (who, on average, occupies a home for no more than 7 years), from casually removing trees, which might have been on the site for many times that length of time, and which may continue to contribute to the city for decades to come.

If you don't like abiding by city laws, you always have the option to either petition for repeal of the laws, or to move out of the city.
 

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