Getting Paid less than crew?!!!?!?!?!

[treehumper]

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The only two problems with moving up that way is you run into getting elected to do all the tough jobs, which is sorta a blesing in disguise, and those guys on crew don't decide how much i get paid. the manager does, and he never sees me work. so goes life. appreciate it while you got it.

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It's the beginning of any career. While the manager may not see you physically do the work they do see it in the numbers. They'll see the improvement in productivity, whether it's rewarded or not is another matter. That is where tracking your own improvement is important. Knowing what you've achieved is going to serve you well when you are ready to move on.

Unless your employer is matching contributions to the 401K then there's better ways of creating a retirement nest egg.

 

[tophopper]

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Besides every family has one

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and two in mine!!


Believe it or not, Im the normal one!

 

[petegrisewood]

My two cents...

Number one: Your boss made a mistake when he hired on a new guy & agreed to pay him more that the guys who have been busting thier [bad word] for him every day. Assuming you are a top guy & the new guy is a top guy - he should have to put in some time to prove himself before he gets top pay. If he has the skills - then he gets the pay & everyone knows he deserves it. otherwise - you end up with your current situation.

Number two: No matter what you do or how good you are, you are only worth as much as you believe you are. If you are willing to take less, then you are going to get just that. It doesn't matter if you sell tomatoes, lay bricks, work in a bank, or climb trees. Your boss is only going to pay you what you will settle for.

Be confident. Get Certified.

 

[_clarity]

Update:

I quit, now boss is screwed.

We had 4 peeps, 2 good, 2 learning(one of those climber previously mentioned) Good climber #1 left, and I found out about pay(not necessarily related then good climber #2(me) leaves. Now poor boss must train and do estimates.

In my view it had to be done. I gave him a chance, but he screwed the pooch. I talked to said climber about why I quit, and this person agrees with my view.

BTW, I did a couple of Environmental Studies courses in college, a couple of months digging ditches years ago(no chance contacting boss), a month clearing some woods in Maine, and have now been climbing for 14 months after taking away winter breaks(it's cold here).

Am I right in thinking that I can't get my cert anyway? And if that's the case, shouldn't certs be taken with a grain of salt when determining pay?

 

[treehumper]

Certs are a baseline measuring stick. If you've got it there is a minimum standard that had to be achieved. There is value to the company in what they can advertise and work the can pursue. Many government contracts require certification or you can't even tender.

Bide your time and keep clear records showing your work history as it relates to the time requirement for the certificate. You could go after the certified tree worker designation as a stepping stone to the C.A. While I agree with not settling for less then you think you're worth, be sure that you can back up what you say with clear examples of the work you can do and the level of skill you have. Thank you letters from clients, productivity gains due to your work habits or contributions you've made to improve efficiency, revenue or reduce costs for the company.

as Mark Twain said, "If you done it, it ain't bragging!"

 

[jerseywild]

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Most big companies have apolicy against this.Some will actually terminate for it . I worked for one like that

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That is a policy of corporate America. The only one who benefits from this is the company in question. There are a lot of office politics going on in most large companies. Knowledge is power. Just be smart in how you use this power. No matter what job you are in the guy with the sheep skin will be getting paid more or at least most of the time.

 

[kevknep]

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Update:

I quit, now boss is screwed.

We had 4 peeps, 2 good, 2 learning(one of those climber previously mentioned) Good climber #1 left, and I found out about pay(not necessarily related then good climber #2(me) leaves. Now poor boss must train and do estimates.

In my view it had to be done. I gave him a chance, but he screwed the pooch. I talked to said climber about why I quit, and this person agrees with my view.

BTW, I did a couple of Environmental Studies courses in college, a couple of months digging ditches years ago(no chance contacting boss), a month clearing some woods in Maine, and have now been climbing for 14 months after taking away winter breaks(it's cold here).

Am I right in thinking that I can't get my cert anyway? And if that's the case, shouldn't certs be taken with a grain of salt when determining pay?

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Were you happy with your pay before you found out someone else made more? If so, it sounds like your ego was bruised more than anything. Did you find another job before you quit? If you did and have better conditions and compensation, then everything turned out for the beter anyway.