Geckos'

Gerald_Beranek

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Geckos\'

Frans Smith lent me a pair of Geckos' to try out and I climbed a Bishop Pine and Redwood with them today.

The Bishop Pine was 24'" dia. by 140'. A removal. Got the ride of a lifetime taking the top out. A real piece of linguini.

I was impressed with the Geckos' ability to stick into the tree through the high bark ridges and hold. Odd point on the spurs that left me wondering about that.

Yes! They held,,, and getting past the rough bark in the first 30 feet of the pine with no more kicking out than my old trustworthy long point Buckinghams. Though I must admit I had some doubts at first.

Once past the rough bark conditions the Gecko points stuck well in the wood and didn't require any added effort to pull them out. I admit sticking them with added force only because it was my first experience with the new spurs.

They performed well in the Bishop Pine.

The Redwood, second growth with soft thick bark, the Geckos' performed no less than my long point Buckinghams in the same.

I had my doubts about the points performing in the rough bark conditions of the pine and redwood, but they did with no more kicking out than with my usual fare. They passed the test in that respect and I will give them a thumbs up. Though I have yet to try them in thin skinned structure.

I was amazed at how light the Geckos' are. It's beyound words.

The Velcro wrap on the shank makes for a quick and efficient fit on the shin. The "shin guard" itself is intergral and supports a replaceable pad for the shin. The shank, frame and pad that forms the upper assembly of the Geckos' is fixed and non- adjustable for height. It couldn't have fit me better, but for someone with shorter shins the Gecko's could intrude on their inner knee. And be cause for considerable discomfort. It is a distraction the manufacture should fare for the consumer by making available a choice of frame heights.

Durability??? That is to be seen. My old Buckingham long shanks have been well used, thrashed, for thirty years and show no signs of wear or fatigue. They're anvils and cost me $30 used. No telling how long they were used before. Can the Gecko's prove to last as long through the test of time and durability. I have some doubts.

For one the epoxy chips. The Geckos' I used are new, though used by a couple of others before I had chance to try them. And already chips in the epoxy is evident on the botton of the stirrup and inside of it. No doubt from walking in them. That actually is an easy fix. The sticky back "anti-skid tape" can be applied to solve the epoxy chipping on the bottom and insides of the stirrup. Though it is a fix the manufacture should do.

One piece of metal..... is in the Geckos'. On the outside of the stirrup. A small ring eye for attaching the ankle straps. Cracks in the epoxy around the ring are evident in the set I recieved from Frans. It may not be nothing, but I look at it with discern. I always look at new stuff that way.

In a nutshell I will give the Gecko's a thumbs up for their ease of fit, comfort and untility. For me they performed as well as I could expect from such a tool. As for their durability, and the test of time, it is yet to be seen how they perform in that respect.

I'll add, in just the last few years I've seen some of the most advance developments in climbing gear than I have seen in over thirty years. And it's getting better as we speak.

It's truely amazing what we have available today,

Jerry B
 
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Jerry,

I'm guessing that you are talking about the Carbon Fiber ones? I laugh everytime I pick them up. They are ridiculous.

I feel the same. I liked them as much as any of my gaffs, but they are a lot lighter.

Oh yeah, and they do offer three sizes, med. large and x-large. They go by height of the climber (you). I have the large and they work pretty good for me. I would like to try all three sizes though. It would be neat to compare.
 
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Mark, Yes, I am talking about the carbon fibers. Sorry I forgot to mention that. Thank you for adding that the Geckos' come in three sizes. Frame heights. That's important And it stands in my review as a correction.

I'm impressed with them. Very comfortable and fuctionable. They perform very well.

Today I wrecked out some White Fir using the Geckos'. Power lines were dropped and it was a wide open drop zone for a couple of trees. A no brainer.

One of the trees, over structure, we still had to speed line the limbs and top out. It had a "Dog Leg" .... and at one point required me to rest my shin on the crook to perform my tasks. For the next 4 hours I didn't even think about about the new piece of hardware strapped to my legs. All natural moves and confidence. No kicking or cutting out. And so the job went till finished.

Upon picking up all the gear and stowing it away I noticed a divit in the upper assembly 'shin guards' of the Geckos'. From my shin rest on the "Dog Leg" for support reasons to do the work, a minor stub there compromised the epoxy and carbon fiber. A divit on the left climber and a tear on the right. Not life threating by any means, but in the second day of using the Carobn Fiber Geckos the test of their durability comes to light. By no intent.

In spite I still give the Carbon Fiber Geckos' a thumbs up for their user friendlyness and comfort. After climbing in spurs for 38 years I can swear the Geckos' are the most comfortable by design.

Some minor improvements need to be made. But that is always the fork in the road to perfection.

Looking back thirty years ago. Wow.

Can you believe it, Jerry B
 
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you know , I dont where sprurs to often at work , but private work I do because I'm usually doing removals. I have a pair of alluminum sprurs and as I'm writting this , I'm drawing a blank on the name ...lol...if you said it I would know it.

Anyway , the question I have is this .When your using spurs , thier usually stuck in the trunk or a limb.Does the weight really make that big of a difference ? I dont notice my spurs when there on , as far as weight goes .So , those who do alot of spur climbing , tell me the difference .

Thanks
Greg
 
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Jerry,

I don't mean to correct, just add some info that I was given. And you're right, the size would be an issue.

I wonder about their durability for things like you described. I didn't worry all that much because I like CF and Kevlar and such. All of my hockey sticks are composite and they take one heck of a beating! They do get knicked and chipped when slashed, but really durable.

I was also told that the manufacturer did test these beyond the requirements. I was told that he hit these gaffs with over 350 lbs. and then did the 1/2 million cycles as well. They said that they surpassed steel. But, will they take the missed swings, bumps and shin-brace hold? Time will tell.

And Greg, I would have to say that the weight IS important. It is almost like not wearing any except when you need to spike. If you limb walk and swing and ascend, these are definitely going to make a huge difference in your energy expendature. It is really noticable.

One thing I think needs improving is the ankle strap. I don't get enough adjustment from the leather straps. I would like to see a fully-adjustable type.
 
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Thanks for the input Mark.

The shin guard is intergral to the shank and tapers from beefy to light as it wraps around the shin and becomes flexible around, and, on the shin. The design distributes the lateral pressure from the climber on the shin very evenly. This design in the shin pad of the Geckos' has been a career long sought after improvement in the "Climbing Irons" for me. It is exactly that. It's the best I've climbed in.

That divit and tear in the shin guard from resting my weight on those stubs amounts from very minor to hardly noticeable. Unless upon a very close inspection. The strength of the tool is not comprimised by it. I'll watch how I rest my shins on the tree here on. The days of heavy metal strapped to my legs are over for me.

Now all I got to do is find out what kind of deal Snarf will give me on the Geckos'

I'm sold, Jerry B
 
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Greg, you must be talking about the Bashlunds' aluminum frame climbers.

Yeah, I can see your point about the weight difference. True, once you got your weight and gear is in the ropes any extra is not really noticeable. Wearing the Geckos' though is noticeable.

Love those pics you sent. "war zone" specially.

See you soon, Jerry
 

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