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What did Clinton do when the USS Cole was attacked in Yemen?--Nothing. What did Clinton do when an American embassy was attacked in Africa?--Nothing.

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Confirmation of who was responsible for the attack on the USS Cole came in the waning hours of the Clinton Administration. A plan of attack was drawn up but not executed because Bush was taking office. Richard Clark made the case to the Bush team for going after the attackers of the Cole but was told that it was a no go.

I believe we fired cruise missiles at Osama's Training Facility and a supposed munitions factory (that may have just been a milk processing plant) in response to the Embassy attack in Africa.

Maybe it wasn't enough but it was not nothing as you say.
 
The campaign rhetoric, like "heck of a job" for Brownie and Rumsfeld both, proved once and for all that lies repeated often enough make the easiest fool into a dangerous one.

Highlighting Bush's failures always seems to bring-out a pass-the-blame to Clinton. Clinton knew who Al Queda was while he was in office, Bush didn't until 9/11 (Secretary Rice before the 9/11 panel). Clark briefed Clinton daily, he was told to quit attending the NSC morning briefings once Bush/Cheney took over the throne.

Ignorance because a grand Bush plan was already in the works, to invade Iraq, a year before 9/11. His job was just to convince a wounded and mourning America that it was connected, which we knew then, and again now, that it wasn't.

We're not really talking Clinton anyway, I'm justifying and rightly so...my hatred of Bush, the traitor.
 
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Maybe it wasn't enough but it was not nothing as you say.

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Where did you get your information?

In my opinion, justice needs to be swift. Clinton didn't do his part quick enough. Therefore, it was as I said.
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Ignorance because a grand Bush plan was already in the works, to invade Iraq, a year before 9/11. His job was just to convince a wounded and mourning America that it was connected, which we knew then, and again now, that it wasn't.

We're not really talking Clinton anyway, I'm justifying and rightly so...my hatred of Bush, the traitor.

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Man, you have some good connections for your credible information. Where did you get it?

And once again: If you hate a man you are guilty of murder in your heart.--What a shame.
 
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Maybe it wasn't enough but it was not nothing as you say.

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Where did you get your information?

In my opinion, justice needs to be swift. Clinton didn't do his part quick enough. Therefore, it was as I said.
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My information is from Richard Clarke's testimony before the 9/11 Committee. I recommend reading it. There is blame to go all around but the Clinton administration clearly took Al Qaida more seriously than the Bush team prior to the attacks of 9/11.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20349-2004Mar24.html

Scroll down to find Clarke's testimony.
 
Tell you what NotAHacker, you open your mind and I'll work on my hatred issues.

We're both on an unfortunate destructive course wouldn't you say? Me with hatred issues and you with limiting the standards by which you judge a leader.

You ask me "Man, you have some good connections for your credible information. Where did you get it?" Well for simple starters, it's all public information from the entire document load of the 9/11 Commission investigation report to both Congress and the public. Yet America doesn't admit readily to failure, more so when the network media tells us ad nauseum where Anna Nicole Smith might be buried instead of the civil war that was caused by a void of appropriate leadership due to our intervention into something we were led to believe was tantamount to the events of 9/11.

To this day Dick Cheney spins his words to convince a moronic public that Iraq is central to the war on terror instead of the combined failures and lies that led our Congress into appropriating war powers to target Saddam because of falsified intelligence reporting. Read the reports then garner an opinion about the both the credibility and effectiveness of the Bush doctrines. Many troops have been killed, much blood spilled from both ignorant decisions on war conduct and more so, failed policies of aggression on the wrong target.

Yet it's "Clinton did this, Clinton did that".

Let's look to the future for once. Learn about the truths behind some of the rhetoric and reasons they are. Interests perhaps of the parties involved, principally oil and who in this administration has intrinsic connections there? Who did Condi work for prior to her appointments? Who's Dick Cheney and Paul Wilfowitz? Think man think.

Sure, Clinton WAS a liar nobody denies that except Clinton. But what about George and the ramifications of his lies? The costs to both taxpayers and security and a future of America in the globe's eyes...which is kind of important you know.

Good debate, it's been going on too long now, it's time for action.
 
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Good debate, it's been going on too long now, it's time for action.


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Oakwilt, I'm at a loss as to what to do other than get mad and moan. I dont have much faith in the democrats and "non-binding resolutions" either.
what is action?

Also, how do you like that big concentration camp they are building down in your texas. You can see it from space.
 
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Also, how do you like that big concentration camp they are building down in your texas. You can see it from space.

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What's this then, I only know of a 2000mile fence to keep Mexican's out but are they building a huge detention centre for illegals or something?
 
The Border Patrol made 1.1 million apprehensions last year -- mostly Mexicans who were promptly returned across the border -- but estimates 500,000 people evaded capture or entered legally and then overstayed visas.

An additional 630,000 are at large, ignoring deportation orders, and 300,000 more who entered state and local prisons for committing crimes are to be deported but will probably slip through the cracks after completing their sentences.

That's some serious numbers, they're gonna have to hurry up with that fence.
 
Probably won't be too far in the future when Americans (the one's who claim dominion here now) will swim over the Rio Grande to get to Mexico, the empty land of new opportunities.

Detention centers are not a new phenomena, just that Halliburton has grown so fat and it's connections so tight with Bush & co, that they're awarded the endless no-bid contracts to build hundreds of new ones, the felons to fill them increasing while civil liberties decrease, a "win/win" for free market enterprizes sans any oversight or legal proplems that existed in the past, like free speech or assembly or due process.

Rich people can get deferments or pardons, better yet appoint party lackies to the Attorney General's posts in every federal district to insure prosecutions are limited to the unfortunate regular Joes, like psychotic Iraq war vets or kids attending school with a fingernail clipper and a bad haircut. In the meantime their supporters like the Ken Lays and Congressmen who prey on young boys are allowed to retire or defer paybacks or ski in Colorado until the heat dies down..or they die from natural causes.

Build them and they will come. Like diagnostics for kids that are kids...Zanax their brains and Merck makes a mint.
 
Support Our Troops.

Yup, we do that alright.

Army Secretary quit after Walter Reed's commander fired. Must be for more time to spend with their families.

God bless America.

"We're winning"
 
Of all the visiting realtives and loved ones, the fellow patients, the American public and especially the president, whose photo-op visits frequently coincided with dipping poll numbers and media allegations of distance from the costs of his war, the situation of Walter Reed and Bethesda points to a larger picture of the American psych and how "easy" it is to say one thing, and do another.

Pretty sad.
 
My worry is that there is no longer enough of a democracy for it to matter wether we are democrats or not. I dont call myself one. I definitly would not call Bush a republican. Fascist might be a better term. I also want to clarify that when I say Bush, I feel that is giving him to much credit for what is going on. There is a whole gang of thugs up there that are ripping us off. I dont hate him or them. I dont espouse violence against them. I just feel they are diseased by power and milatarism.
 
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