- Location
- Ames Iowa
Just curious what are your favorite rope and hitch cords when using the RW ZK2? Also what friction knot are you using?
Favorite rope/hitch combo with Rope Wrench?
- Thread starter FreedomTree
- Start date
- Location
- Tonimbuk, Victoria, Australia
At present Tach, 8mm OP 3 wrap 2 braid VT. But I am interested in Moss's 10mm OP and the Michoacan or Knut (got the cord yet to try either)
- Location
- Austin, TX
I do exactly the same as Tony but would like to try out some donaghy cougar or kernmaster. I find tachyon has just a little too much bounce but I love the grip of it.
BeesandTrees
New member
- Location
- Longmont, CO
Using tachyon and bluemoon. VT w 8mm Beeline, 3wrap, 3braids...Have just started to use Michoacan again and liking it too.
wyoclimber
Participating member
- Location
- Cody, WY
I'm on bluemoon with 8mm armor prus. VT with 3 wraps 2 braids. Really would like to try out the cougar blue though.
flyingsquirrel25
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- South East, PA
I like Fly 8mm beeline 28" i2i with 5 wrap michoachan (i know my spelling sucks). Tachyon works well with this combo too but Fly is nicer to me.
- Location
- Orange, MA
Tachyon with hrc, 3/3 vt. Runs great with the wrench and ddrt.
- Location
- Ames Iowa
Thanks guys! why not a static rope? i thought srt was generally done on a static line, but maybe i'm mistaken?
- Location
- Hawaii
I use 10mm and 11mm HTP static line with 3/3 VT 8mm armor prus and it works great!
jp
jp
- Location
- Tonimbuk, Victoria, Australia
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I like Fly 8mm beeline 28" i2i with 5 wrap michoachan (i know my spelling sucks). Tachyon works well with this combo too but Fly is nicer to me.
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Has someone got a link to how you pronounce michoachan ??
mick-o-chan? mitch-o-chan? If I'm going to us it a should know how to say it. lol
I like Fly 8mm beeline 28" i2i with 5 wrap michoachan (i know my spelling sucks). Tachyon works well with this combo too but Fly is nicer to me.
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Has someone got a link to how you pronounce michoachan ??
mick-o-chan? mitch-o-chan? If I'm going to us it a should know how to say it. lol
moss
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Carlisle, Massachusetts, U.S.
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Thanks guys! why not a static rope? i thought srt was generally done on a static line, but maybe i'm mistaken?
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For straight up long ascents static is optimal but... for working in the tree you're going to get all kinds of give in the system from redirects anyway, kind of negates any advantages from a true static. It's nice to have a double braid arb rope for easy grip, overall softer in the hand, more supple for knot tying than a true static. Basically all the good things you get from a rope built for tree climbing. Embrace the bounce ;-)
-AJ
Thanks guys! why not a static rope? i thought srt was generally done on a static line, but maybe i'm mistaken?
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For straight up long ascents static is optimal but... for working in the tree you're going to get all kinds of give in the system from redirects anyway, kind of negates any advantages from a true static. It's nice to have a double braid arb rope for easy grip, overall softer in the hand, more supple for knot tying than a true static. Basically all the good things you get from a rope built for tree climbing. Embrace the bounce ;-)
-AJ
moss
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Carlisle, Massachusetts, U.S.
After checking out the performance of Ocean's 6 wrap Michoacan with 10mm cord on Imori I've followed suit, doing the same on Tachyon with 10mm Ocean Polyester, it is awesome. By 6-wrap I mean 6 total coils, after it's tied you have 5 coils above with the tucks through the bottom 6th coil.
The hitch is very compact vertically compared to a VT for example but performs very well SRT or DRT. Requires a 32" e-2-e to tie it if you're running it on a Hitch Climber pulley.
-AJ
The hitch is very compact vertically compared to a VT for example but performs very well SRT or DRT. Requires a 32" e-2-e to tie it if you're running it on a Hitch Climber pulley.
-AJ
- Location
- Orange, MA
Its michoacan, named for the Mexican state that the inventor was from.
countryboypa31
New member
- Location
- PA
I like Vortex with 10mm Armur-prus tying a 5 wrap michoachan
i also use Fly with Ice 5 wrap michoachan for my short rope.
i also use Fly with Ice 5 wrap michoachan for my short rope.
Frax
Participating member
The fine print suggests that a static rope should always be used when using toothed ascenders, which would include a pantin I presume.
There is some risk that a fall on ascenders on non-kernmantle rope would shred the rope to failure.
I accept this risk because the hand ascender should always be under tension during ascent and it should be removed once at the work zone. It is very important not to allow slack into the system when relying on an ascender.
Working SRT on our usual assortment of modern arborist lines is just fine. You will never get rid of the bounce anyway if base tied or if you are redirecting a lot, which is the chielf advantage of working SRT.
There is some risk that a fall on ascenders on non-kernmantle rope would shred the rope to failure.
I accept this risk because the hand ascender should always be under tension during ascent and it should be removed once at the work zone. It is very important not to allow slack into the system when relying on an ascender.
Working SRT on our usual assortment of modern arborist lines is just fine. You will never get rid of the bounce anyway if base tied or if you are redirecting a lot, which is the chielf advantage of working SRT.
Richard Mumford-yoyoman
Been here a while
- Location
- Atlanta GA
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Has someone got a link to how you pronounce michoachan ??
mick-o-chan? mitch-o-chan? If I'm going to us it a should know how to say it. lol
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mechoacán
This link as an audible button to listen the real pronunciation.
As stated, it is a Spanish word and a state in Mexico where Martin lived, the o and a are pronounced together, a diphthong where the letters are pronounced together but remember there are almost no silent vowels in Spanish and each must be pronounced, the last a has the accent over the á, still pronounced but with more push.
Sorry about the Spanish lesson, I just love that stuff.
Has someone got a link to how you pronounce michoachan ??
mick-o-chan? mitch-o-chan? If I'm going to us it a should know how to say it. lol
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mechoacán
This link as an audible button to listen the real pronunciation.
As stated, it is a Spanish word and a state in Mexico where Martin lived, the o and a are pronounced together, a diphthong where the letters are pronounced together but remember there are almost no silent vowels in Spanish and each must be pronounced, the last a has the accent over the á, still pronounced but with more push.
Sorry about the Spanish lesson, I just love that stuff.
Richard Mumford-yoyoman
Been here a while
- Location
- Atlanta GA
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The fine print suggests that a static rope should always be used when using toothed ascenders, which would include a pantin I presume.
There is some risk that a fall on ascenders on non-kernmantle rope would shred the rope to failure.
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In my thought process the difference between the "shred" or cutting of the rope between double-braid (strength inside and outside braid) and kernmantle (most of the strength inside) in a fall arrest is not that important. I may be wrong but feel that I would "shred" long before either of these ropes anyway, so perhaps in this ugly scenario it may make the recovery a bit easier if the rope were to separate. (ok that was ugly)
For me it is more about the wear on the rope and picking that can happen on double braid, even when I am careful. Since I switch often between static kernmantle and double braid I have pretty much stopped using the Pantin, sleek and pretty yes but not as toothed friendly like the CMI foot ascender.
The fine print suggests that a static rope should always be used when using toothed ascenders, which would include a pantin I presume.
There is some risk that a fall on ascenders on non-kernmantle rope would shred the rope to failure.
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In my thought process the difference between the "shred" or cutting of the rope between double-braid (strength inside and outside braid) and kernmantle (most of the strength inside) in a fall arrest is not that important. I may be wrong but feel that I would "shred" long before either of these ropes anyway, so perhaps in this ugly scenario it may make the recovery a bit easier if the rope were to separate. (ok that was ugly)
For me it is more about the wear on the rope and picking that can happen on double braid, even when I am careful. Since I switch often between static kernmantle and double braid I have pretty much stopped using the Pantin, sleek and pretty yes but not as toothed friendly like the CMI foot ascender.
countryboypa31
New member
- Location
- PA
I'm not worried about the pantin on arborist lines. Static Kernmantle lines should be used when ascenders are life support, and present where there is a possibility of them being loaded during a fall. The pantin is not life support rated. So i see no issue using it on different types of lines.
Richard Mumford-yoyoman
Been here a while
- Location
- Atlanta GA
Excellent point, that makes perfect sense.
