Fascism, American-Style

JCB

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I hope that the new Trump electorate accepts that they (as individuals) willfully and openly conspired to elect a dangerous candidate (and his coterie) who promised to destroy our country and our partnerships abroad. The laws that could have disqualified this convicted/dog-whistling presidential candidate were overlooked and overwritten by the highest courts. The January 6th Insurrection—and Trump’s 9-year-long campaign—sought and achieved the same goals: to instill hatred and to Make Trump a King!

Outlandish, you say! It’ll never happen! Pshaw! No one can convince millions of voters to work against their own current- and long-term interests—all to receive nothing in return. Ah, but we failed to consider the mindless embrace of cults.

In cults, any number of folks can prove willing to trust a charming, iconic personality to oversee their reasoning, decisions, freedoms, worldly assets, and daily existence. And Trump is the Master Coercer! His devotees elected candidates hell-bent on “blowing up!” our most fundamental AMERICAN precepts. Yes, they chose Jerry Springer for president, with that Show’s contestants filling in as Cabinet secretaries. But this time they got an added bonus: This time, these usurpers took the non-cult-members (including the Planet and its Peoples) down to Hell with them—irretrievably and irrevocably.

I hear Trump voters crying out, “Both candidates were of equal merit and temperament, and we chose based solely on policy distinctions, such as, “Is our man despicable enough to win?” “Is He really the Messiah?”” In future, let these revisionists recite those fantastical flagellations to their doubting descendants. The rest of us have learned (Project 2025) that the coming kleptocracy will doggedly dispose of our rights, legacies, services, and securities. I’ll never forgive any individual for helping to elect Trump this time around. It’s a bridge too far.

Voters spent decades listening to the Mad Man and his “concepts.” They made their choice with stubborn determination: No apologies; no take-backs; no excuses! I just hope that these pride-filled Americans will clearly identify themselves: Perhaps a nice tattoo, celebrating “the day the music died.” They have lived closeted, hypocritical lives for much too long.

. . . And I am suddenly one who would vote to split the Nation in two. Who do I see about that . . . MTG?

Meanwhile, there are confused, damaging, backward, and sad times ahead—no matter what our age. I primarily blame the emotional, cognitive, and societal debilitation caused by smart phones and social-media. (There would be no Trump without Twitter.) But even with limitless data on their devices, these voters blindly made this self-obliterating, no-way-out decision—all while disguised as patriots. Throw down your damned phones now! Oh . . . never mind! The damage is done.

Yes, it’s too late to close the barn door, but never forget what those horses carried off with them:
1. Our ability to learn; to reason; to care for each other; to grow kinder, more secure, and happier.
2. Our moral centers, which taught us to treat every race, gender, and minority with 100% Equal Respect—every day!
3. First and foremost, this approval of Trump’s agenda tacitly bans further original thinking and—at least symbolically—the freedom to ever again complain, about anything.

Trump voters may conclude that the “thinking and complaining” restrictions above don’t apply to them because they are "grandfathered" into the system. It's true, Republicans have shown a preternatural ability to stifle their thoughts and tongues; in fact, it was that cowardice that landed us in this swamp.

I never doubted some rich white guys would someday overrun this country—but to see it meekly handed over to society’s known-worst elements in this velvet revolution is revolting. Leave it to us Americans to have no idea what we stand for at this crucial juncture. Thinking citizens understood that we no longer deserved to be seen as the world's greatest democracy, but we mightily hoped to be worthy again, one day. But now a slim majority has conceded the power to dream and aspire, for all of us, forever.

Well, the future is theirs: Maybe these eager voters should get a head start on their studies, by reading Mein Kampf perhaps? Or, how about playing wargames in Puerto Rico? Yes, I understand (viscerally and intellectually) that I am now in the political/cultural minority, and that I must question the motives and morals of 53% of my fellow townspeople (or, by my personal estimate, the 40% of drivers who raged at me and my picket sign on Tuesday). Misogyny, racism, selfishness, and immorality have won.

So, I say this to the New Order: “Congratulations! Ultimately, your successes will include:
1. spreading chaos and hate in every family, organization, and community;
2. helping to weaken/disparage the current world order and nullifying innumerable international accomplishments;
3. releasing hordes of professed, armed criminals into society to fight your battles (we just condemned Haitian gangs for doing this).”

“But what to do until Inauguration Day!?!”
I recommend smacking yourselves in the head and repeating, “Shame! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!” I’ll tell you when to stop.

“Good night and good luck!” (E. Murrow)

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The best thing about the internet is you can find anything on the internet. The worst thing about the internet is you can find anything on the internet...
Remember when we thought the Internet would lead to a new enlightenment? The world's knowledge at your fingertips. New ideas and inventions capable of being brought to light in a snap.

Instead we got conspiracies, misinformation, the ability to say or do anything we want from behind the safety of our screens, and funny cat videos (it can't all be bad stuff).
 
Remember when we thought the Internet would lead to a new enlightenment? The world's knowledge at your fingertips. New ideas and inventions capable of being brought to light in a snap.

Instead we got conspiracies, misinformation, the ability to say or do anything we want from behind the safety of our screens, and funny cat videos (it can't all be bad stuff).
I think we had enlightenment and true factual knowledge in the beginning. Then someone/something saw an easy way to manipulate people and presto you have what we have now.
 
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To whom do you refer?

OP

This post is what's known as the "Bill Clinton technique". You project all your own behavior and bad intentions on your opponent. You call your opponent by your own names (cult, fascist). You call events by names that are opposite of what occurred (insurrection, white supremacists endorsement). All while knowingly or psychopathically ignoring the fact that contradiction of your imagined reality are a millisecond Google search away.

Literally a type of psychosis.

Those of us who aren't blinded by hate know these claims are bullshit. We've taken the few seconds to read transcripts that demonstrate that the dying legacy media are gaslighting people whose hatred is stronger than their curiosity and appreciation for truth.

Here's one example. I leave it to truth-loving, reality based people to spend just one minute researching. This outrageous lie was repeated by the once decent president Barrack Obama as recently as October 26, 2024.

Obama said Trump "said that there were very fine people on both sides of a white supremacist rally."

What did Trump actually say? Who was Trump talking about? Why doesn't the OP know this? Why don't you know it? Why did Obama outright lie about this?

TRUMP SAID
"You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides." "I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally."

The dying media would lead you to believe he was talking about the white supremacy groups at this rally. Obama would blatantly lie to blind followers just last month. But they've completely left off the fact that local people who objected to removing the statue and had nothing to do with white supremacists had been demonstrating and protecting the statue for weeks. Those are the people Trump was talking about. And he made it blatantly and Incontrovertibly clear to the most casual or brainwashed observer.

Trump literally and explicitly excluded white nationalists and neo-Nazis from his comment about "fine people".

This information is available if you take the smallest steps off the disinformation highway that old dead media has paved for centuries.

Why don't you know the truth?

There were three types of groups at the Charlotte Robert E Lee statue protest. Who were those groups?

At the Charlottesville protests over the Robert E. Lee statue in August 2017, there were several main groups:

Alt-right/white nationalist protesters

• Came to protest the removal of the statue
• Included white supremacist groups, neo-Nazis
• Organized the "Unite the Right" rally

Counter-protesters
• Local residents and others opposing the Unite the Right rally
• Included various anti-racist groups
• Included clergy members and civil rights activists
• Included antifa members

Regular citizens/locals
• People from Charlottesville expressing various views about the statue
• Some supported keeping it for historical reasons without supporting white nationalism
• Some supported removal but weren't part of organized counter-protests
• Some were documenting or observing events
 
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[QUOTE="Mike Islander, post: 771760, member:
... Literally a type of psychosis.[/QUOTE]

Hate begets hate. It does not matter what side you are on and will over time bring you closer to the very things you rage against.
 
[QUOTE="Mike Islander, post: 771760, member:
... Literally a type of psychosis.

Hate begets hate. It does not matter what side you are on and will over time bring you closer to the very things you rage against.
[/QUOTE]

So, are you saying when people misquote and mischaracterize and demonize Trump, this is because they hate him and they've become the people they fear when they pretend those people do what they hate or fear? Even when the people they fear aren't what they're pretending they are? What exactly do you mean?
 
The more I see comments by democrats characterizing Trump, the clearer it is that they've been gaslit. Somehow they aren't curious enough about truth to take literally seconds to find out the truth. When truth contradicts a falsehood that supports a position of hate, it's hard to convince someone to be interested.

Here is some court documents showing massive voting irregularities in the 2020 election, well more than necessary to steal Trump's win. When all is said and done, did he actually win? I don't know. But clearly he had piles of reasons to doubt the results on Jan. 6. A stolen eiection is essentially a coup. Armed resistance would have been justified. But Trump didn't do that.

In 2020 Trump only needed 43,000 more votes to win. How much election fraud does it take to literally steal the election? 43,000. How many actual documented ballots are in question? Far more than that. Trump probably should have held off the election confirmation due to massive fraud. You could justify it based on constitutional voter disenfranchisement. But he didn't. He turned over the presidency to Biden right on time.

SUPPORTING MY CLAIM using AI Analysis (Claide.ai, which is documented to not be biased in favor of conservatives. Buy to move this beyond reproach, I had it just document actual court records):

Based on documented cases and court records, here are key instances of ballot irregularities:

Pennsylvania: About 372,000 mail-in ballots were rejected for verification issues during the general election, but after court rulings and Secretary of State guidance changed the standards mid-election, many were subsequently counted. Main issues were missing dates and mismatched signatures. The acceptance rate varied significantly by county. (Confidence: 85% on the existence of these cases, 70% on the numbers)


Nevada: About 153,000 ballots had signature mismatches or other verification issues. After relaxed verification standards were implemented, many were counted. Clark County had notably different acceptance rates than other counties. (Confidence: 80%)


Georgia: Drop box chain of custody documentation was missing for approximately 355,000 ballots in the Atlanta area. State law required this documentation. (Confidence: 85%)


Michigan: Detroit TCF Center testimony indicated ballots with verification issues were counted after poll workers were instructed to override normal verification processes. Numbers unclear but sworn affidavits suggest thousands. (Confidence: 75%)


Wisconsin: About 200,000 voters were allowed to claim "indefinitely confined" status (bypassing ID requirements) compared to 67,000 in 2016. A court later ruled this shouldn't have been allowed without proper verification. (Confidence: 90%)


Party impact analysis: Studies indicate mail-in ballots trended heavily Democratic while in-person trended Republican in 2020.

YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO BY THE DYING LEGACY MEDIA AND DISENFRANCHISED BY STATE GOVERNMENTS
 
What’s funny about my comment Mike?
I figure it's sarcasm. But I think it doesn't work if you actually believe the Trump administration will actually wipe out animals, create widespread dirty water and air. So it's funny if you don't believe it (because clearly sarcasm contradicting accusations that conservatives don't care about those things) and funny if you do believe it because it's false based on 4 years of Trump in his previous administration.
 
OP

This post is what's known as the "Bill Clinton technique". You project all your own behavior and bad intentions on your opponent. You call your opponent by your own names (cult, fascist). You call events by names that are opposite of what occurred (insurrection, white supremacists endorsement). All while knowingly or psychopathically ignoring the fact that contradiction of your imagined reality are a millisecond Google search away.
Just a brief interjection here, but I can't think of a person this fits better than Trump. He is a lot better at this than Bill Clinton ever was. 'Crooked Joe Biden is the worst president in the history of this country', 'I will deal with the Biden Crime family', etc, etc. Says a person convicted of 34 felonies by a non-partisan jury, with judgements against him for sexual predation, and an almost endless host of his former lackies and advisors already in jail for perjury. A person whose own military advisors from his previous term have begged us not to vote for him and in one case specifically labeled him a fascist. Hard to see how all this is an imagined alternate reality.
 

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