Falling out of your saddle

Even with the TM saddle nice and tight I like suspenders. They don’t seem to encumber me but act as an attachment point for my knee ascender’s bungee line biner as well as a 10oz throw ball. I used to hang a homemade telescoping hook off the back of them until it broke. It was nice for remote rigging line setting as well as long lanyard attachment points. It was easier than asking for a pole saw and maybe 50% of the time no one was there to send anything up anyway.

I like Moss’s idea of just hanging upside down close to terra firma to instill some confidence. Thank you sir.
 
I have seen two of my slimmest friends, one of whom is 6'2" and 140 lbs soaking wet, fully invert themselves in a relatively cheap Notch Spartan harness, which is as the name implies, quite minimal, and had never considered that anyone could ever fall out of a properly adjusted modern harness, regardless of which style harness. I have inverted a few times in my Sequoia, and I am fairly slim as well. Never felt like there was anything to worry about. I am sure that with enough effort, you can kill yourself any way you can imagine.
 
I’ll copy what I wrote in another thread about 6 years ago regarding saddles falling off:

Speaking of saddle malfunctions, I once had a vertical stub, maybe 1/2 inch diameter, jam up into my old Buckingham belt style waist closure. Didn't realize it, took a step sideways and my whole saddle straight up dropped to my knees. It just unbuckled the belt. Luckily I was pruning a Bradford, so I was only up maybe 10 feet. Got my attention though.

So yeah, it can happen. And I don’t use belt closures anymore.
 
islandarb said:
I honestly cannot see anyone falling out a properly adjusted modern leg loop saddle. My 2 cents. Ass or no ass.
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I’m certified to have a negative ass. I can invert quite safely in my TM harnesses. Mentioning the leg loops is key. That’s a lot to slide out of, past the crook of your knees. It would be an extraordinary and rare circumstance to be ejected out of a harness.
-AJ
 
About 15 years ago, when I first started climbing and sent myself to a climbing class hosted by our local extension office, and run by Jim Savage, the first thing the instructors made us do after they made sure we were properly tied into a tree, was climb up about six or eight feet, turn upside down with our legs up and our arms down, and hang there. That was done to help us to learn to trust our climbing systems.

Back then, my skinny little self did not slip a bit, and I don’t think Jim would have made the class do that if he was worried about people sliding out on their heads.
 
Bucknut said:
I’ll copy what I wrote in another thread about 6 years ago regarding saddles falling off:

Speaking of saddle malfunctions, I once had a vertical stub, maybe 1/2 inch diameter, jam up into my old Buckingham belt style waist closure. Didn't realize it, took a step sideways and my whole saddle straight up dropped to my knees. It just unbuckled the belt. Luckily I was pruning a Bradford, so I was only up maybe 10 feet. Got my attention though.

So yeah, it can happen. And I don’t use belt closures anymore.
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I had a similar thing happen with a first gen sequoia. Know clue how it opened but the buckle popped open when I transitioned in from a limb walk, swinging in the last 5-6’. The waist belt was up in my armpits, and the leg loops pinched my groin so fucken bad..
Promptly bought a new tree motion.
 
I regrettably have absolutely no ass or hips weighing only 135 and even in some very old school saddles I’ve never felt like I would slide out while upside down, I do however make sure the waist is nice and snug. It used to hurt sitting on the wooden school benches as a kid and even lighter, all bone contact
 
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