Ecosystems

This newly 'discovered' ecosystem exists within 25 acres, I only know about it because it was in the news recently.

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Microbes in Atacama desert's lost lagoons may mirror early life on Mars

Researchers have discovered a jaw-dropping ecosystem of crystal-clear lagoons and salt plains in Argentina's Puna de Atacama desert that could offer a window onto early life on Earth and Mars.
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That is a micro macro question. I am my own biome which is a host to tons of different critters.
It fractals out into how many different micro ecosystem interact creating a much larger more broad macro ecosystem.

A bit of a misnomer as ‘old growth’ is an ecosystem which comprises of old and young. For conservation sake let’s toss that to the side. We can have an old growth single tree which is host to many unique adapted species, or we can have the OG forest which can host a much broader complex arrangement of species. Thus higher quality and resilience. This doesn’t make the stand alone tree any more or less.

So the question is scope.
 
I've been playing with sealed jar ecosystems (about a gallon) of earth and pond water for a while, they are fun to watch grow, die, change, adjust, etc but none of mine have lasted more than about 6 months without going anaerobic.
 
evo said:
That is a micro macro question. I am my own biome which is a host to tons of different critters.
It fractals out into how many different micro ecosystem interact creating a much larger more broad macro ecosystem.

A bit of a misnomer as ‘old growth’ is an ecosystem which comprises of old and young. For conservation sake let’s toss that to the side. We can have an old growth single tree which is host to many unique adapted species, or we can have the OG forest which can host a much broader complex arrangement of species. Thus higher quality and resilience. This doesn’t make the stand alone tree any more or less.

So the question is scope.
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Spot on.
 
bobs yeruncle said:
Sealed bottle terrariums are the smallest macro ecosystems I can think of. Like that English fella with the bottle he's had going since 1960, hasn't been opened since 1973 when he gave it a drink of water
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That’s impressive. I’ve long known about terrariums, but I’ve never heard of one being sealed for that long. I wonder how many different species that supports?
 
evo said:
That is a micro macro question. I am my own biome which is a host to tons of different critters.
It fractals out into how many different micro ecosystem interact creating a much larger more broad macro ecosystem.

A bit of a misnomer as ‘old growth’ is an ecosystem which comprises of old and young. For conservation sake let’s toss that to the side. We can have an old growth single tree which is host to many unique adapted species, or we can have the OG forest which can host a much broader complex arrangement of species. Thus higher quality and resilience. This doesn’t make the stand alone tree any more or less.

So the question is scope.
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Scope is a good point, which one could argue expands outward beyond our planet. A lot of residential properties seem rather sterile. I’ve heard of micro forests. How much can we fit in ever shrinking, fragmented spaces?
 
27RMT0N said:
I've been playing with sealed jar ecosystems (about a gallon) of earth and pond water for a while, they are fun to watch grow, die, change, adjust, etc but none of mine have lasted more than about 6 months without going anaerobic.
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Interesting. Do you think the luck of the draw when collecting would have anything to do with the longevity?
 
oceans said:
Interesting. Do you think the luck of the draw when collecting would have anything to do with the longevity?
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For sure, but honestly I don't keep mine in anywhere near the ideal location/situation either. I've always had them in the living room so I can easily watch them, but my house is old and that room gets pretty hot in the summer, so temps raise and lower a lot more than ideal, and they get direct sunlight they shouldn't in the perfect world. But, if I had them in a back room under the best possible conditions, I'd have a lot less opportunity to observe them as I walk past, which would mean a lot less enjoyment.

There is a balance of soil/substrate, water, plant material and air in the top of the jar that makes a huge difference and is hard to get right. Sometimes it is a guessing game. I've tried to start ones that after a few days I could tell were trash, so you just dump it out and start over.

Check out SerpaDesign on youtube for more info, he seems pretty solid. Lots of fakers who only make ones that last a week to shoot the video....
 
27RMT0N said:
For sure, but honestly I don't keep mine in anywhere near the ideal location/situation either. I've always had them in the living room so I can easily watch them, but my house is old and that room gets pretty hot in the summer, so temps raise and lower a lot more than ideal, and they get direct sunlight they shouldn't in the perfect world. But, if I had them in a back room under the best possible conditions, I'd have a lot less opportunity to observe them as I walk past, which would mean a lot less enjoyment.
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Ironically that guy, David Latimer, has said in interviews hes apathetic towards the terrarium because he doesn't get to enjoy any blooms or textures or smells, its just a space-filler in the house he spins 180 degrees every week. Whats the saying, familiarity breeds contempt lol
 
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