Double whip vs "single whip"?

After my friction work I'm ruined. I see 1/(1+1.2)x300 = 137 lbs in one rope leg and 1.2/(1+1.2)x300 = 163 lbs in the other leg, and the down leg gets 137 lbs / 1.2 = 114 lbs going down to the portawrap. Tension ratio of a rope going around a pulley like shown is 1.2. Block sling sees 137 + 114 = 251 lbs. Magic of aerial friction. Top of tree sees 137 + 163 (i.e. 300) + 114 lbs down leg = 414 lbs not 450. Magic of aerial friction again.

Top block creates useful aerial friction by reducing the down leg value. The "with the log" pulley/device kicks up the load at the stationary rope tie point on the trunk while contributing to lowering the down leg tension. Useful to know if you sub in a more active friction device for the upper block or at the log. Biner comes to mind.

I'm ruined in the same way that arborists can't enjoy a walk through a park without sizing up how they'd climb all the interesting trees. Picking optimal tips, routes etc in their mind. :)


Carry on. I should have put up a nerd alert for this post.
 
After my friction work I'm ruined. I see 1/(1+1.2)x300 = 137 lbs in one rope leg and 1.2/(1+1.2)x300 = 163 lbs in the other leg, and the down leg gets 137 lbs / 1.2 = 114 lbs going down to the portawrap. Tension ratio of a rope going around a pulley like shown is 1.2. Block sling sees 137 + 114 = 251 lbs. Magic of aerial friction. Top of tree sees 137 + 163 (i.e. 300) + 114 lbs down leg = 414 lbs not 450. Magic of aerial friction again.

Top block creates useful aerial friction by reducing the down leg value. The "with the log" pulley/device kicks up the load at the stationary rope tie point on the trunk while contributing to lowering the down leg tension. Useful to know if you sub in a more active friction device for the upper block or at the log. Biner comes to mind.

I'm ruined in the same way that arborists can't enjoy a walk through a park without sizing up how they'd climb all the interesting trees. Picking optimal tips, routes etc in their mind. :)


Carry on. I should have put up a nerd alert for this post.
Yeah you have what I refer to as the burden of knowledge. I always assume no friction as a component of my safety factor. Your calculation of 414 at the top of the tree vs my 450... I'll err on the liberal side.
 
But friction bites you too. It made one rope leg higher than the no friction value.

And it really bites you for lifting or pulling multi pulley stuff.

Work out the lifting numbers. They'll surprise you, considering it's just pulleys.

Almost 40% less than expected at the porty was a bit eye opening, wasn't it?
 

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