CTI QUICK STEP-S...

Zebco Kid

Zebco Kid

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Good morning.

This weekend I had the chance to try out a new foot ascender. I purchased the CTI Quick Step-S

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This device didn't work well for me, as I kept detaching (stepping out) from the rope. My climbing buddies told me I purchased the wrong one. I needed to have the Quick Step Food Ascender (has a pin that keeps the rope engaged.

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My question is whether I can modify the Quick Step-S to stay put...or do I need to purchase the correct one?

Thank you.
 
Buy a footie from Climbing Innovations (Richard Mumford) for my money it is the best on the market. He only produces for the right foot.
 
That's basically an old style Pantin shape.

If you are kicking out, try pointing your toe down more.

If that isn't working, drill a little biner- hole, a la Pantin.






My guess is it is technique and the choice for easier on/ out, versus a trapped rope that is secure, and takes extra effort in and out.
 
I tried pointing every which way. I simply couldn't keep the rope in the device. The only time it would stay in was when I climbed without a knee ascender - just arms and one leg. It appeared that any slack created with the rope walking allow for the rope to kick out. And...sometimes quite literally, my ankle/ascender would come in contact with my other leg, bumping the rope out.
 
Zebco Kid said:
I tried pointing every which way. I simply couldn't keep the rope in the device. The only time it would stay in was when I climbed without a knee ascender - just arms and one leg. It appeared that any slack created with the rope walking allow for the rope to kick out. And...sometimes quite literally, my ankle/ascender would come in contact with my other leg, bumping the rope out.
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If it's your first time (or even if you're still relatively new to foot ascneders say under 50 climbs or so) a lot of that kicking out is just stride and technique and getting used to the ascender. If it's still returnable, definitely swap it; if not then I'd say a few more practice climbs to develop a rythm would be helpful. I climbed on one for years until the rivets holding it together failed, and with time the kickout became way less common
 
This is where pictures and videos are worthwhile.

My guess, you have a defective product, or didn't set it up right, or not using it as designed. Could be any/ all three.


Pictures of it installed on your rope, attached to your foot would be valuable. Video, even moreso.



If nobody thought it was worthwhile, I would guess it's a bad design, and wouldn't be made.






What is your ascending technique?

Some claim a reverse-bicycling motion works.
Short steps are important.
 
If you get the technique down you might grow to love it. It requires some babysitting and or tail weight until you get high enough. Once about ten to 20 feet off the ground the weight of the rope should be enough to avoid the slack build up between the knee and footie. Anything rubbing above the footie on the rope will negate the tail weight, as well as the angle the tail of the rope. Straight up and down is easier.
Practice practice practice, soon it won’t be a problem at all. Once you get it down you can kick in and out of the footie WITHOUT using your hands!
What @southsoundtree said, the original OG footie had a hole behind the cam, if you put a carabiner such as a cheaper key chain one or super small but made of thicker stock in it. This allows the cam to only open just a enough for the rope to slide though, but not so much the rope can roll out.
Just take your left foot and pinch the rope between the cam lightly, lift up your leg with toes up. The rope will just fall into place. To remove the rope just flick your toes up, raising your foot up and outwards and it kicks out.
Hang a little weight on your tail before your feet leave the ground. This can be a few throw bags, a super heavy throw bag, or just make a few small coils of your trail (3ish) and make a mini gasket coil (look it up). I personally just fight it the first few few steps (if even needed), or if it’s a long ascent to the top I will tie on my chainsaw for tail weight, makes kicking out a little easier (on purpose or accidentally), but the fall of the rope has to be nearly perfectly vertical.
Seriously it’s not a race to the top. Practice at 1:4 speed of walking up a flight of stairs. Not a speed walk, not skipping every other, just a drunk dizzy but coordinated stumble speed.
 
Evo,

Thank you for that. It all makes sense. Mine was popping off with 75 feet of rope below my as I climbed SRT. There was plenty of tension on the line. I'm sure it was me. Just couldn't figure out the "right motion". Natural wasn't working...nor did heel down or up.
 
My guess is your technique needs work for that tool to work well for you. Whoever said 50 climbs to get it, sounds about right.

Where this is a hobby for you, is say Just buy a footie with a latch. Keep it fun, not frustrating
 
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Kinda what i was thinking. Rope Angle between knee ascender and foot ascender is making the rope kick off the foot.
 
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