Creosote Burn

Steve Connally

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I did a big Gov contract the other day and took down a telephone pole along with a bunch of trees. I was pretty sweaty and every place the saw dust from the pole contacted my arms and neck I have a nasty burn. Has anybody ever seen or heard of this. The burn is kind of brown and leathery. Super sensative to the sun. Miserable!!!
 
Yep, years ago, when I was waterproofing a basement wall. everywhere the stuff got on me was burned in the same manner. Sensitive to the sun and all that. I had to completely cover up for a few days until the sensitivity subsided. That was in June! Totally sucks but you'll recover.
 
So ironic that you posted this. Just today I was telling Steve, a fellow climber who was showing burns from cutting a walnut tree the other day. I told him it doesn't even compare to when I was cutting telephone poles down for our township. I volunteered for this and my compensation was I could salvage the copper wires that were left. It burned so bad I drove home and got into the shower. It was a hot sweaty day, and the burn lasted for several days. I also have gotten burned from black walnut several times on hot sweaty days.
 
You just about need a hazmat suit to block one of those suckers down. At the very least long sleeves and a face mask.



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Any time a question about a material comes up the first stop should be the MSDS, Material Data Safety Sheet. You'd be surprised how many 'feared' chemicals and products are rather benign.

When TCIA started handing out the oval 'Until We're all Safe...' helmet stickers someone asked about the effect of the glue on plastic helmets. It took a while to find out that the adhesive is a derivative of white glue, Elmer's Glue. Not gonna degrade plastic.

Check this out:

http://tiny.cc/MSDScreosote
 
Yeah I looked at the MSDS after the fact. Who thought it would have had such an effect. This pole has been around for years and years. My arm and neck blistered up today and looks super nasty. I had to work in the heat covered today and it was miserable.
 
I used to get creosote burns ALL the time. You get used to the burns, its the slivers that really suck. They get infected almost instantly, then they swell WAY up, and after 2-3 days emits this awesome yellow/green puss. Digging the sliver out from under all this is the best part!

I miss linework everyday, but theres certain aspects I will NEVER miss!

I remember when I burned my first pole, about 25' up @ CATV. Kicked out, slid 10', bear hugged the pole. Foreman in the bucket yelling for me to let go and drop! I didn't want to listen. I slid all the way down that pole trying to get my hooks back in. I ripped the 2 shirts and hoodie I had on right off the front of me. I had slivers from my belly up under my chin and down my arms. I was swollen and on fire for a month. I had to have my buddies help me get the slivers out.
 
From Wiki...

Health effects of coal tar creosote
According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR), eating food or drinking water contaminated with high levels of coal tar creosote may cause a burning in the mouth and throat, and stomach pains.

ATDSR also states that brief direct contact with large amounts of coal tar creosote may result in a rash or severe irritation of the skin, chemical burns of the surfaces of the eyes, convulsions and mental confusion, kidney or liver problems, unconsciousness, and even death. Longer direct skin contact with low levels of creosote mixtures or their vapors can result in increased light sensitivity, damage to the cornea, and skin damage. Longer exposure to creosote vapors can cause irritation of the respiratory tract.

The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has determined that coal tar creosote is probably carcinogenic to humans, based on adequate animal evidence and limited human evidence. It is instructive to note that the animal testing relied upon by IARC involved the continuous application of creosote to the shaved skin of rodents. After weeks of creosote application, the animals developed cancerous skin lesions and in one test, lesions of the lung. The United States Environmental Protection Agency has stated that coal tar creosote is a possible human carcinogen.

There is no unique exposure pathway of children to creosote. Children exposed to creosote will probably experience the same health effects seen in adults exposed to creosote. It is unknown whether children differ from adults in their susceptibility to health effects from creosote.

A 2005 mortality study of creosote workers found no evidence supporting an increased risk of cancer death as a result of exposure to creosote. Based on the findings of the largest mortality study to date of workers employed in creosote wood treating plants, there is no evidence that employment at creosote wood-treating plants or exposure to creosote-based preservatives was associated with any significant mortality increase from either site-specific cancers or non-malignant diseases. The study consisted of 2,179 employees at eleven plants in the United States where wood was treated with creosote preservatives. Some workers began work in the 1940s to 1950s. The observation period of the study covered 1979- 2001. The average length of employment was 12.5 years. One third of the study subjects was employed for over 15 years.
 
I got some creosote burns about 25 years ago while building steps out of fresh RR ties. Same scenario, hot humid day, sawdust all over. I had to be driven to the E room, couldn't hold my eyes open. ER Doc's had no idea what to do, sent me home with cold compresses. Spent 3 or 4 days in the basement cool. After that each year in the spring for about ten year or so, the first hard sun I got would set it off again although not aqs bad as that first time.
 

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