Climbing in open air /dead space

After rec climbing the last seven years, this is the thing that still bothers me. I feel safe if I have limbs around and below me, no matter how high. But climbing out in free air on a tree with the first limbs high up is still scary! All good advice above, from our pros on here.
 
Man Burrapeg, that is interesting. I have preferred climbing a rope through open air single day one. There's something about the easy trip to the top/ish, after which you can go down to anything you want. I always like how quick and easy it is.
 
Man Burrapeg, that is interesting. I have preferred climbing a rope through open air single day one. There's something about the easy trip to the top/ish, after which you can go down to anything you want. I always like how quick and easy it is.
My increased fear of heights has paralled my increased age. I had almost no fear at all of heights when I was a few decades younger but at 71 now I guess I am feeling a lot more mortal! The climbing has been great therapy for dealing with it; it's great exercise too, for keeping in shape.
 
How high do you climb ?
My increased fear of heights has paralled my increased age. I had almost no fear at all of heights when I was a few decades younger but at 71 now I guess I am feeling a lot more mortal! The climbing has been great therapy for dealing with it; it's great exercise too, for keeping in shape.
 
I'm late to this thread and of course there have been a lot of good comments already.

I'm currently training a relatively inexperienced climber, and they haven't done a lot of work very far away from the stem. But the other day, while I had them dead-wooding the fir on the left, I shot a line in this skinny madrone on the right, with the line being at a roughly 6" union, and had them traverse over into that tree to remove some deadwood in it as well. Something they'd never done before. It was honestly a bit of a struggle and their first time working two climbing systems at the same time, and moving sideways like that, but it went well and was a huge confidence boost getting through it and getting the work done.

Do you have an experienced climber to teach you the trade, explain the trees, and show the common work in your area? I'm really not saying this to toot my own horn, but I think the reason it has gone well with my employee is that I've had them on a slow but steady skill progression and they really do trust my judgement on what I tell them and the situations I put them into. That leads to growth, comfort and ultimately competence.


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How about using training wheels? I mean a second line like they mandate in some countries because they don't have trust in a safe system. Pretty soon, you'll get sick of it and find it unnecessary in mosts situations and if you do feel the need, you'll be good at backing up your primary.
 
How about using training wheels? I mean a second line like they mandate in some countries because they don't have trust in a safe system. Pretty soon, you'll get sick of it and find it unnecessary in mosts situations and if you do feel the need, you'll be good at backing up your primary.
Yes sir. I'm actually IRATA 1 certified and have done this. The only issue is I haven't found a way to rope walk with my RRP, with a backup (ASAP)
 
My first few times doing crane work I remember I would feel more comfortable if the operator lowered the cable next to the tree before I hopped on versus out in the middle of the yard where there was nothing within my immediate reach. Or in a bucket / lift and finding myself wanting to stay close to the tree. Same scenario can apply when climbing.

It’s your body’s natural “fight or flight” response to possible danger. There is a psychological aspect to tree work that I don’t think is often talked about and that is that anxiety / fear is very real and for some people it may always be somewhat present. I still sometimes get a little uneasy in certain situations. The key is not allowing it to get to a point that it controls you, hinders your ability to make the right decisions or immobilize you in the tree.

As others have suggested, trusting your gear and in your skills / knowledge is essential. If there are certain situations that make you uncomfortable, doing some rec climbing outside of a job scenario that mimic those situations may help when it’s controlled and you can take things at your own pace as you try to work through it.

Also, another point I want to mention not necessarily in regards to this particular thread but in general and not trying to sound discouraging either, but I think each climber who deals with this needs to be honest with themselves as to whether it’s worth it? If you can’t seem to shake the anxiety even after working on trying to get it to a more manageable level and it impacts your everyday mental health and ability to do the job, then maybe you need to consider a different career or focus on jobs that are more within your comfort range. And there’s literally nothing wrong with doing that. Find your niche in other words.
 
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Well, there’s some great suggestions…

The only thing I’d add would be to drink a couple of Red Bulls (they give you “wings”) and listen to the sound track from the movie Jaws. You’ll be climbing like a pro in no time.
 

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