Clean-Up-As-You-Go redirect

Richard Mumford-yoyoman

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A redirect that has been discussed before is back in discussion. I will avoid giving it a name or speak to its origin, as that is not what's important.
So, if one take a bight of rope and puts it above their climbing apparatus it can be used as a very handy retrievable redirect. There is a 3:1 MA built into it but it is different that the 3:1 orientation one may be familiar with. It can be used on a limb, ring, pulley type carabiner, Quickie, Ring and Ring and other configurations. In a way, I hate to hear it referred to as a 3:1 as it makes it sound the same as a popular technique but retrievable.
So when using this technique please be aware of these cautions.
1. You will be using 3x the rope. Most climbers in trees are not using stopper knots on the end of the climbing line. It is easy to use all of the line one may have before getting to the ground or next station. If that tail goes thru the climbing device it is not a good day.
2. Also import with anchor considerations is if that redirect is chosen without proper considerations and it breaks, you are mid-air, with 3 legs of slack climbing line above. How that connection is made can mitigate the failing limb or tree connection.
3. Depending on the activity being performed, chainsaw vs camera etc., one may not be able to get to the ground like you can from a regular 3:1. A climber can't just stop and release it. Although there are things that can be done without having to go back up, but if you are bleeding or hurt it would be difficult to perform those tasks.
4. Friction considerations. Some devices have difficulty releasing all friction without making undesirable configuration changes.
5. Some devices can be negatively impacted by the close proximity of 3 legs of line being next to the friction control.

Again, great technique and retrievable clean up as I go redirect, I use it often but it needs to be understood before implemented.
 
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To retrieve, I guess you either send your multiscender through the union, OR you switch it over to the leg on the other side of the union (if it's midline attachable), and pull the bight through?
 
To retrieve, I guess you either send your multiscender through the union, OR you switch it over to the leg on the other side of the union (if it's midline attachable), and pull the bight through?
No need to send through a union.
So I get to my redirect, take a bight above the multicender and put it over the redirect. I then put a Quickie on that bight and put another bight into the quickie. That bight comes down to my bridge and becomes an anchor. It all releases and comes back to me when I release the carabiner on my bridge.
 
The second bight is passed through the Quickie and comes from under the redirect, correct? You then climb on the bight, being careful not to pull the tail through the Quickie? I think I can visualize this. You pull slack below your multicender as you go I assume? In my mental picture the bight comes down to your device, then from under the device it goes back up and through the Quickie.
 
Thanks for the reply. I got lost at the second bight step (the one that goes INTO the Quickie after the initial bight had the Quickie clipped into it)...where did that bight come from?

Is the diagram pretty close?

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No need to send through a union.
So I get to my redirect, take a bight above the multicender and put it over the redirect. I then put a Quickie on that bight and put another bight into the quickie. That bight comes down to my bridge and becomes an anchor. It all releases and comes back to me when I release the carabiner on my bridge.
 
Thanks for the reply. I got lost at the second bight step (the one that goes INTO the Quickie after the initial bight had the Quickie clipped into it)...where did that bight come from?

Is the diagram pretty close?

View attachment 81301
Exactly and very nice drawing by the way. So cinch to the limb, keep the plungers from the Slic Pin clear as always, and always run a stopper knot on the tail of your climbing line. A pulley type carabiner will smooth out the friction if needed but this concept works best for dropping straight down and not the choice I would make for a 3:1 limb walk option. One of reasons for that, if you will be coming off of it, you need to be in a place that will support your full weight.
Those cool pics where you can see everyplace the climber has been with the rope threaded though all kinds of unions, or the struggles to remove multiple redirects...gone.
 
The few times I've needed a redirect I've set up an extra rope over the second crotch I want from the ground use a carabiner on the top and base tied it.
 
Thanks for the reply. I got lost at the second bight step (the one that goes INTO the Quickie after the initial bight had the Quickie clipped into it)...where did that bight come from?

Is the diagram pretty close?

View attachment 81301
Reminds me of the scam redirect, you could also clip the last bite to the same carabiner on akimbo etc so that it self tends and one less biner right?
 

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