Campus Work

I acually got the time to to take a walk around the campus a couple day ago. To my not so good thinking I loked up at some trees that the subcontracters did and was shaking my head and wondering why did they cut those branches and the look of the ground where some removals where.
Ok to get to the piont are there any companies that would like to come up to the campus and actually show how a real professional tree service does things pls pm me to get more info.
Nate
 
Ok here it is Cornell University. I konw why would ya have subs at such a place well new rules and they have no intetions of trianing guys. I am asked by my the crew I work with to do the tree work. We have no certs. (am working on mine) so that means no tree crews all subed out.Except storm damages that we can handle. I was just posting to see if any company in that area or aout of area would like to give it a shot.
Out of 15 trees that have been removed by subs and the pruning I know out there in NY or surounding area there is a company that is more proffesional.
Nate
 
The University I work for does not allow anyone to climb for insurance reasons. I am limited to a 35' bucket so most of our work is contracted out. When I was hired as the Arborist we had many of the same problems. The policy was, and still is, to hire the lowest bidder. Most of the time they were not the best people for the job. One of the first things I did was to require all contractors to have a ISA Certified Arborist on site for all work as a requirement for bidding. It's helped alot in improving quality and I don't have to do as much babysitting.
 
Marc H, what university do you work for. I would think it more cost effective to get the insurance and allow the employees to do the tree work, rather than subbing out the work for what usually ends up a lot more money? Although, maybe most the work is accessible from the bucket?

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Marc H, what university do you work for. I would think it more cost effective to get the insurance and allow the employees to do the tree work, rather than subbing out the work for what usually ends up a lot more money? Although, maybe most the work is accessible from the bucket?

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I work for the Univ. of Denver. It took me 7 years to get a 100 gallon sprayer and just last summer we got the bucket truck and it took me six months to convince mangement to let me use it for tree work. I save over $9,000 each year on spraying and in the very limited amount of time I've had in the bucket, did around $11,000 worth of tree work. For some reason upper management prefers to contract everything out but the budget is never big enough to get anything done.
 
Yeah I am in the same boat as mark it takes amost a life time to get equipment to use after the facts are stated. We dont even have a bucket truck. I know the issues with subs and money has some head scratching going on, trust me I do alotof it when it comes to hearing about how are we gonna do this and that. Then comes in sub.
The insurance thing is high from what I have heard 1 mill ins. is required to do work on campus, I think that has lowered not sure.
The bad thing is that I am not waiting around till we have another tree failer, 2 is just lucky nobody was hurt. Like in baseball 3 strikes your out, my guttells me #3 is gonna do it.
In all the campus is well groomed, but you look past the 15-20 foot mark and well you get into trouble.
Ok heres the deal what if I could get a couple if not alot of you guys and gals who are certs. to come out and take a look and see where some of these trees are going.
Nate
 
Awww, you don't need no stinkin bucket truck. :)

But quality work is visible. As universities are very much in the public eye, our work gets seen. I had a prof extol about his students do an exchange in Oxford that changed their lives-- not onl the fine education, but the surroundings. When they graduate and make those fistfuls of dollars, some of them will remember where they lived and want their surroundings to look like this place.

My predicament isn't about equipment but compensation. My salary is supposedly analyzed against the other universities around. And, well, nobody has a staff arborist. Several visiting grounds managers have mentioned to me they wish they could have one. For what they pay their contractors, they could. I don't know about others, but my employer is a non-profit organization. Big whoop.

When I got here, I asked about why no bucket truck. Besides that tool accessing less than 20% of the 2200 trees on campus, there were mumblings about insurance costs.

I've had little say as to who is hired to do contract work-- and it shows. Again, I can see the contract work, but because the [predominantly poor] quality of trimming done in the surrounding neighborhood, the work blends right in-- it looks like a trimmed tree: topped crepe myrtles, lion's tailed live oaks, stubs, flush cuts. Not to mention the scant use of PPE. We're in a neighborhood where the houses go for at least $400k.

But we gots da expensive athletics department cause we need a winning team for the alums to drink beer over 6 times a year.

Let me get back to caring for this little piece of Eden. I hear the money purses snapping shut again. [/Rant off/]
 
I work for a university owned botanical garden so I know where you guys are coming from. If the safety folks on campus knew some of the things I do up here they would probably have a conniption fit.

That being said, the main campus does have a three man tree crew, although they do the vast majority of their work out of a bucket truck. They can climb when necessary, but tend to sub out the big removals (big is a relative term here). One of the tree crew recently left and now they are advertising to hire someone new. But at the low rates that the university is willing to pay they'll be lucky to get someone to even apply for the job.
 
I do thank thee for the info. in the thread. I just recemtly did a removal today on the campus( a climber woohoo) that is a hyped up thing for my guys. In all there where alot of ppl there to see this removal and its undertaking(VPs,Supers,and yes th epres of the univ. stopped in ).
All went well 2 hours roping and rigging , I know 2 hours (class changes) we where proffesionals at the job and in the end all we heard was why did you have to do it why noy someone else. Our asnwer was th4e subs are busy with storm clean ups out of the area. AAAAAAAA well I high fived the guys and we cleaned up. joked about the job. It felt good and to my amazment the subs are back and getting attention again.
Bad thing is not one actuall cert. aaaaaaaaaaaa well life goes on, but the offer still is open any takeers welcome just PM me ok play safe all.
Nate
 
Glad you got to do your time as a climber. Get a chance to show off your skills. Not that the subs were busy, but for today You Da Man.

When a third party crew comes in, the biggest disruption they make is the noise. They will be gone at the end of the day and forgotten until the next time-- or when I am around. And somehow them reminding me its noisy makes it better.

Apparently it was cost effective to have all your superiors out there, too. Everyone outside of the work area or wearing PPE? Did you ask them to bill their time to the job, too (not suggested).

Hopefully you'll gather the same kind of audience when you get regular trims as you did on this trim-to-death.
 
Yeah the trimm of death was well covered in the PPE areas. Even the uppers wore hard hats do the nature of som eof the guys giving these really wierd looks as they worked and people dodged in and out.
I did get some phone #s of some possible clients (Kaaaaaching prof. have the live ) in all fairness they were really interested and how the the whole thing was done.
All i have to do now is get really cooking on th ebooks for cert. test and all will be good.
As before offer is open .
 

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