Campaign backfire?

Saturday, September 13, 2008 - AP
McCain lambasted for inaccuracies


By MICHAEL COOPER and JIM RUTENBERG
The New York Times
Sen. John McCain is drawning an avalanche of criticism this weekend from Democrats, independent groups and even Republicans for regularly stretching the truth in attacking Sen. Barack Obama's record and positions.

Obama also has been accused of distortions, but McCain is under fire for two headline-grabbing attacks. First, the McCain campaign twisted Obama's words to suggest he had compared GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin to a pig after Obama questioned McCain's claim to be a change agent by saying, "You can put lipstick on a pig; it's still a pig." (McCain has used the same expression to describe Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's health plan.)

He then falsely claimed that Obama supported "comprehensive sex ed" for kindergartners. (Obama supported teaching them to be alert for inappropriate advances from adults.)

Those attacks followed weeks in which McCain repeatedly, and incorrectly, asserted that Obama would raise taxes on the middle class, even though analysts say he would cut taxes on that group more than McCain would, and misrepresented Obama's positions on energy and health care.

A McCain advertisement called "Fact Check" was itself found to be "less than honest" by FactCheck.org. The nonpartisan group complained that the McCain campaign had cited its work debunking Internet rumors about Palin when they haven't found accusations of Palin's earmarks less than truthful.

"The last month, for sure, I think the predominance of liberty taken with truth and the facts has been more McCain than Obama, by a factor of ten to one," said Don Sipple, a GOP advertising strategist.

Indeed, McCain increasingly has been called out by editorial boards, as well as independent analysts such as FactCheck.org. The group has cried foul on McCain's campaign more than four times as often as on Obama's since the conventions. Saturday editions in several major metropolitan newspapers have lambasted the McCain campaign on the "misuse of the truth".

"We stand fully by everything that's in our ads," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said, "and everything that we've been saying we provide detailed backup for — everything."

For a candidate who long has deplored the kinds of negative tactics that helped sink his candidacy in the 2000 Republican primaries, the turnaround has been startling.

"They just keep stirring the pot, and I think the McCain folks realize if they can get this thing down in the mud, drag Obama into the mud, that's where they have the best advantage to win," said Matthew Dowd, who worked with many top McCain advisers when he was President Bush's chief strategist in the 2004 campaign, but who has had a falling out with the White House.

Indeed, strategists in both parties have credited the offensive with putting Obama on the defensive since markers in fundraising, instead of solicited polls, have placed Obama's position triple digits ahead while leaving McCain tens of millions of dollars behind.

Some have faulted McCain for not only the blatant nature of some of the untruths but also for failing to correct himself when errors are noted.

Even on "The View" on Friday, co-host Joy Behar grilled him about his new ads. "We know that those two ads are untrue," she said. "They are lies. And yet you, at the end of it, say, 'I approve these messages.' Do you really approve them?"

"Actually they are not lies," McCain replied crisply, "and have you seen some of the ads that are running against me?"

Obama's hands have not always been clean, either. He was called out earlier for saying, incorrectly, that McCain supported a "hundred-year war" in Iraq after McCain said in January that he would be fine with a hypothetical 100-year U.S. presence in Iraq, as long as Americans were not being injured or killed there.

More recently, Obama has been criticized for ads that have incorrectly accused McCain of not supporting loan guarantees for the auto industry — a hot-button topic in Michigan. Obama also has taken McCain's repeated comments that the economy is "fundamentally sound" out of context, omitting the fact that McCain almost always says he understands times are tough and "people are hurting."

But sensing an opening, the Obama campaign released a withering statement after "The View" aired Friday.

"In running the sleaziest campaign since South Carolina in 2000 and standing by completely debunked lies on national television, it's clear that John McCain would rather lose his integrity than lose an election," Hari Sevugan, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, said in a statement.

In Dover, N.H., a voter asked Obama when he would start "fighting back." Obama, who began an aggressive ad campaign Friday, said he has a different philosophy. "I'm not going to start making up lies about John McCain," he said.

McCain's strategy reflects a calculation made by his advisers. The ads are devised to shift the debate to questions about Obama's character and qualifications, often with disputed claims. It is a bold tack for a candidate who calls his campaign bus the "Straight Talk Express," his chartered jet "Straight Talk Air."

Sipple, the Republican advertising strategist, voiced concern that McCain's approach will eventually backfire. "Any campaign that is taking liberty with the truth and does it in a serial manner will end up paying for it in the end," he said.
 
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That does it, I'm voting for obama!

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How 'bout them Vikings? hehehehe

By this time in the process most people have made their minds up about who they believe will carry their ideals forward for the next four [???] years. No amount of discussion is likely to change their decision.

It's nice to see the back and forth banter about the election staying above the table. It is too easy to have these discussions get nasty. This speaks well of the participants!
 
That article got my mom to send Obama $20!!!

Last time she voted for a Democrat it was for JFK, and that was because she thought he was handsome.

Funny what it takes to move people. Scary to think how easy they do.
 
I'll make a deal with you Jim, you vote for Obama or McCain, and I'll vote for whoever you didn't vote for, and we can both rest easy knowing we did our part to cancel each other out!

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The changes that change has brought -

There used to be 28 members of the Gillespie County Democratic Party - not a single member ran for anything and the Republicans were unopposed from the County Sheriff to each Precinct Commissioner to the Constables to the Animal Control Officer to the Judges (city and county) to the Coronor. Every election for I don't remember how long.

All they did was try to get people to put-up signs and march in the July 4th parade. The parades went okay, but there weren't any signs anywhere - All Bush/Cheney, etc. etc. I don't blame them - would've looked like fools and stood-out like a pink cow. It was embarrassing to think or do like a Democrat, worse if you would show you're one. Talk was you were a traitor to America - who would want to be one of those?

I haven't seen a McCain sign yet. Knowing they'll be there, it's hard to believe the shade of blue with Obama's name everywhere. Evidently something's going on with people's psych and spirits for this sea-change - even some people I know who were hard-core Bush supporters won't mention his name in any context or accept a dialogue about him if you try to start one. Guess I'm not up-to-date on whatever happened other than the obvious, to get these faithful folk to turn like this.

Even I kind of miss the old Republican party, and was hoping instead of this ugly campaign battle they would do good to turn inward for four years and get the old party back to a real conservative and respectful choice for many honorable Americans. TO be different - like we used to could be - and not be told you're the enemy of democracy or a friend to the terrorists wasn't the way it's been the last eight years, the hatred and fear was a political tool used too well and it left scars, deep ones.

So debate can go two ways - instant hate and parroting party lines, or a meaningful discussion on what we think the issues are as we understand them. There are indeed elements of both candidates that will benefit something in all of us - and componants of that won't. FactCheck.org is neutral, there's no debate on that but don't take my word, research it in depth before you question their take on statements made by either candidate - but use them often because if you simply think a speech is gospel instead of a sales pitch, you've already lost the dedication and obligation it takes to be an American citizen.
 

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