Calculation of pic weight accuracy

treevet said:
Yes, it takes the tension off the hook up (with a second choker) and either un leash the girth hitch or untie the r. bowline first and then recover the lanyard for the next hook up. I usually have 3 in my bucket but ALWAYS have one.
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Thats good stuff Dave. I have done the same concept myself for years. Mainly when the top is too tippy and I need to shorten it before I hook it to the crane. Shock the tree not the crane!

As for the communication, the guy asking wasn't on the headsets, but the operator and I were. The cuts we're made low to the ground. I'll get some pics up.
 
sweet as - I have only seen Ace and sherbrooke trees pull that trick and was impressed back then.
how often do you swap out the chokers? not a move I would try from the tree but I am not a bucket fan so it is great to see how to work smarter.
 
Yeah, I taught those guys at Sherbrook how to do that while on Ekka's forum ;-).

We downgrade them for other use often and you can see 2 are brand new. I use that technique crane climbing as well Ben.
 
MASTER YODA !!!
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I never knew that the light from that bushel shined so far.....
so just to clarify you fold the top back onto its self while on the same stem as a climber attached to same stem?
what about the ride factor?
 
Interesting. First Ive heard of this method. I am not seeing it in the video above. And why is it being done exactly? I'm guessing because you either out of reach or having enough but weight to make the pick is questionable. Enlighten us guys!
 
Mark Chisholm said:
I typically stayed on the crane while butting it over and then hooked it when it was done.
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Hey Mark if you are on the crane you still have (most often) to be standing on the tree too to make the cut and buck in. I do a little of both depending on the circumstances. I hang limbs all day long on just a bucket alone td. My biz is and always has been just a gm and me so he can go about his business without all that silly lowering stuff and I just carve up the hanging branch myself which generally hinges inside the roof etc. But you obviously cannot do that without either or both crane and/or bucket because you can't get to the hanging canopy to slice and dice.

Sometimes a whole week is just me hanging branches all day on a bucket td. Then chunk.
 
treevet said:
Hey Mark if you are on the crane you still have (most often) to be standing on the tree too to make the cut and buck in. I do a little of both depending on the circumstances. I hang limbs all day long on just a bucket alone td. My biz is and always has been just a gm and me so he can go about his business without all that silly lowering stuff and I just carve up the hanging branch myself which generally hinges inside the roof etc. But you obviously cannot do that without either or both crane and/or bucket because you can't get to the hanging canopy to slice and dice.

Sometimes a whole week is just me hanging branches all day on a bucket td. Then chunk.
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I am mainly talking about being tied to the crane on a knuckleboom. That's where I've run into the boom being too short most often. On a stick boom I hang limbs usually because they are too far and then I can dynamically load the tree and bring the limb in closet to get the center of gravity over the crane.
 
I guess I thought you and Allmark were answering Ben in that when crane/climbing you don't go for a ride as you are attached to the crane/knuckle so my opinion was that you are likely not just hanging there cutting...you are still ON the tree no matter where your TIP is so you will take a ride if one is to be had either way. No advantage there.
 
yep cause I don't get to ride I was thinking either in being the bucket and not absorbing the shock or actually being on the same stem you were cutting would be a energetic experience , just a different perspective on my part due to restrictive work practices.
 
treevet said:
I guess I thought you and Allmark were answering Ben in that when crane/climbing you don't go for a ride as you are attached to the crane/knuckle so my opinion was that you are likely not just hanging there cutting...you are still ON the tree no matter where your TIP is so you will take a ride if one is to be had either way. No advantage there.
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I may be standing on the tree but not tied into it. 2attachment points to the crane and the TIP on the crane so no need to use the tree for work positioning.
 
treevet said:
you still gonna take a ride if the tree decides to give one
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I actually don't touch the tree. I position to the side of movement and just close enough to reach it. You have to be very sure that you are in the right position no matter how you do it.

I would also say (to anyone reading this that's never done it) DO NOT secure to a tree and crane at the same time when there is potential movement. Things could go bad fast. :frenetico:
 
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