Maybe my legs are just used to mostly pole spurs. I have good external hip rotation, it seems. I can't get both knees to touch the bed, which I'm sinking into slightly, when the sole of my feet are together, but close.
With tree spurs in a dead doug-fir, the other day, they were torqueing my knees from the beginning. I have to stand with my feet wider to wear tree spurs, putting the spurs into the tree farther apart.
I also don't stomp, just step up.
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I can't imagine getting stability in small wood with tree spurs. Normally, I don't have to go into less than 3.5-4" diameter wood, but sometimes I do.
I had an overhead and slightly to the side TIP, but was fully weight on this tree being removed.