Beech Removal

Steve, that time lapse video camera is working nicely.

What software do use to edit out the bits where day becomes night becomes day etc etc again and again?

Do you have a catering company on site to feed your groundies while your moving from one branch to the other side of the same branch?

Nice vid mate, see you next weekend.
 
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Nice work as usual Steve
Grover, so you would rather sit at the top of the tree, watching your groundies break themselves rather than process the branch up in the air if it is an easy and viable option?

It takes a climber less time to make a few extra cuts, than it takes anyone else to even pick a saw up! I guess no one ever explained the concept of team work to you?

Working for your likes of you, I'd probably just tie your rope around the base of the stem and go find a decent climber to work with.

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He he he he

there is some REALLY funny stuff here!!!!!
 
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dergonomic positions (I made that word up, it means bad ergonomics)



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dergonomics...........Thats it!


Im going to buy the dot com befor some one else snags it.
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dang ...... someone already got it!
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Ps.

Steve, Nice climbing.

you remind me of me the way you kinda swing your saw up from your hip.

I guess its kinda a quick pull toss type of thing.
 
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Is correct body positioning in the tree with a ms200T in both hands better for you ergonomically than a groundie reaching into a mass of debris with, say, an ms260, making awkard cuts?


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Why would a groundie be reaching into a mass of debris, I'm not talking about creating an idiot pile! Cut a large branch then the groundies make a couple of cuts then drag it away. Ms260! awkward cuts! thats their job.

When I ground for climbers, I actively request the climber cut big if possible, your goal as a groundie is to make life as easy as possible for the climber, your bleeding heart attitude to the poor little old groundies is laughable.

I'm not talking about making life hard for groundies, just trying to make you aware of the consequnces of inefficient climbing.

Climber fatigue, increased chance of injury due to making avoidable multiple cuts.

A confident climber should be in control of the groundies, not vice versa.

Your working like you owe these guys a favour.

Steve, phoneline issue - fine but remember, rigging is an option.

pete, chill out, what's the point of posting a vid, if you don't expect criticism, everyone else just made bland complimentary comments.
 
"Your working like you owe these guys a favour."

Yep, they make it possible for me to make a living the way I want to. I could run my business in such a way as to try and make them grateful to me for giving them a job, but that would make the same kind of (I'm censoring myself here) as most of the employers I have worked for over the years!

"Ms260! awkward cuts! thats their job."
Ms200t in tree, thats the climbers job!

"A confident climber should be in control of the groundies, not vice versa."
Well I would go back to my point about who's the most experienced. If its the groundie, as it would be if your on the ground, then you/he runs the show.
 
"Well I would go back to my point about who's the most experienced. If its the groundie, as it would be if your on the ground, then you/he runs the show."

Every situation requires a different approach.

I try to work with confident climbers, or if they are new to climbing I stress the importance of being confident in your decisions.

There are times in the tree when you may have to cut multiple small branches or sections of timber, to do this for the benefit of the ground crew is borderline stupidity.

You should always be aware of the stress and strain you are potentially exposing your body to by adopting this approach;

1. Standing on your spikes longer than is necessary

2. Being suspending in an awkward position at the end of a branch.

3. Over stretching to make cuts one handed, damage to ligaments, tendons and joints in your wrists and arms.

4. Chaotic atmosphere and noise of unnessary constant chainsaw revving and cutting is detrimental to your state of mind when climbing.

5. Extremely bad for the groundie's spines as they are constantly bending down to pick up these pathetic little branches.

6. Basically, it's inefficient and against common sense -
like putting your hand into an open flame, you know it's dangerous, but you do it anyway.

Hope this helps your decision making process in the tree.
 
Grover

"1. Standing on your spikes longer than is necessary"

You should be working, not standing around waiting for the groundies to catch up processing the huge limbs you have dropped

"2. Being suspending in an awkward position at the end of a branch."

Just cut them all there and then, why hang around?

"3. Over stretching to make cuts one handed, damage to ligaments, tendons and joints in your wrists and arms."

Use 2 hands?

"4. Chaotic atmosphere and noise of unnessary constant chainsaw revving and cutting is detrimental to your state of mind when climbing."

iPOD's are apparently very usefull aid in this situation!


"5. Extremely bad for the groundie's spines as they are constantly bending down to pick up these pathetic little branches."

As is dragging around huge limbs out of the DZ

"6. Basically, it's inefficient and against common sense -
like putting your hand into an open flame, you know it's dangerous, but you do it anyway."

I'll disagree - see above
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How would I ever be able to make any decisions without that kind of help!!

"Every situation requires a different approach."

Exactly, so Steve video shows his approach to his particular situation, thats good, isn't it?


1. Standing on your spikes longer than is necessary

2. Being suspending in an awkward position at the end of a branch.

3. Over stretching to make cuts one handed, damage to ligaments, tendons and joints in your wrists and arms.

I never suggested that bad positioning in order to help groundies was a good thing, my origianl question was "Is correct body positioning in the tree with a ms200T in both hands better for you ergonomically than a groundie reaching into a mass of debris with, say, an ms260, making awkard cuts?"


Pete has answered the rest better than I could!
 
Pete and Rupe

Great points, I'm happy that guys found this conversation interesting enough to comment on it.

Without colourful conversations like this there would be no point in Treebuzz, I firmly believe I am right, and you guys feel you have the eternal answer to everthing in the known universe, thats great.

We're all happy about this current situation then?

later

grov
 
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Steve, that time lapse video camera is working nicely.

What software do use to edit out the bits where day becomes night becomes day etc etc again and again?

Do you have a catering company on site to feed your groundies while your moving from one branch to the other side of the same branch?

Nice vid mate, see you next weekend.

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i'd keep my mouth shut if i was you mr rupe "time out" wilkinson
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when you going to be at the show? i quite fancy the idea of heading into cirencester for a beer friday night if anyones up for it.
 
I pm'd you but got this message

"This user has exceeded their private message quota and may not receive any new private messages."

maybe you need to delete some messages.

My message basically said "not really"!
 
Steve,

How did you decide that the tree was safe to climb with that cavity at the base?

On what basis did you accept the level of risk associated with climbing a tree with a cavity at the base?

I've done many removals like that tree, rigged off them etc, just wondered how you decide what is safe to climb and what isn't.

I just use my experience and knowledge of body language of trees combined with common sense, there sre many different factors to consider.

thanks

grov
 
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I just use my experience and knowledge of body language of trees combined with common sense, there sre many different factors to consider.



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I think you just answered your own question on my behalf, thanks
 
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