APTA 64 rope setting helps in pulling Pine.

Just watched the shot and I want one but there were some safety concerns. The string dangeling needs a lead and there was a dog and a dude downrange.

With these videos and pictures posted. Why can't you guys be safe at least in front of a camera? I'd even put on chaps if I knew I was being filmed.
 
I considered adding a 'fairlead' for the line, but in the event of a snag/twig/rats nest, it could pull all that towards the user. I noticed the line near Bixlers hand in the video as well, its worth thinking about from a design perspective but for now its going to be something the user needs to avoid.

Shoot me a PM and we can talk about getting you one!

He is wearing Labonville Chaps!
 
I'll do that. I'm in Canada though as if you couldn't tell. Ya, fairlead would just give it enough room to come around and hit you in the nuts. Just stand 20' from the bucket.

I meant if it was me making a video. If there was one thing I thought wasn't full on pro I wouldn't post it. I guess a rec climb or something entertaining I'd leave but with marketing involved it's like a business.

I like the launcher, it would be a tax write off.
 
I was thinking I had went off on the firing range protocol. I work with a dog on site and she gets secured when things are flying. I had only watched the first minute and had to comment. So I watched the rest and thought maybe I could say something nice. The backcut was brutal, what were the wedges for? Then the white dog walking through the danger zone was too much. I didn't go off enough.

It's -33 up here. California dreamin'. I'd keep my mouth shut and operate the rake just to be there now.
 
Well, that was an agonizingly slow takedown. Why so tentative on the saw? You had a pull line AND wedges, just cut it and git er done. Sorry for sounding critical, but that looked like a pretty simple flop. Maybe next time edit it down to a 2 minute video with just the highlights.
 
Bix if you'd bring your backcut closer to level with the apex of the notch it would take the guesswork out of hinge thickness and give you more confidence. It shouldn't need any burping of the throttle just a full throttle zip.
 
Great info guys, thanks for watching the whole thing. Some good questions. Yeah, it can seem painful to watch, agreed... i'll probably end up having to shorten it up to make it bearable.

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I'll do that. I'm in Canada though as if you couldn't tell. Ya, fairlead would just give it enough room to come around and hit you in the nuts. Just stand 20' from the bucket.

I meant if it was me making a video. If there was one thing I thought wasn't full on pro I wouldn't post it. I guess a rec climb or something entertaining I'd leave but with marketing involved it's like a business.

I like the launcher, it would be a tax write off.

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Bo, definitely a little further away from the bucket would be nice, great call. Also remember I'm not trying to market this thing... at least on purpose, I'm just showing how the morning went.

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I was thinking I had went off on the firing range protocol. I work with a dog on site and she gets secured when things are flying. I had only watched the first minute and had to comment. So I watched the rest and thought maybe I could say something nice. The backcut was brutal, what were the wedges for? Then the white dog walking through the danger zone was too much. I didn't go off enough.

It's -33 up here. California dreamin'. I'd keep my mouth shut and operate the rake just to be there now.

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Lol... -33... yeah incredible weather here, very fortunate for that. And the wedges, I figured they couldn't hurt. Remember Bo, that last clip is all real time footage.

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Bix if you'd bring your backcut closer to level with the apex of the notch it would take the guesswork out of hinge thickness and give you more confidence. It shouldn't need any burping of the throttle just a full throttle zip.

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Interesting, thanks Bo.
 
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I considered adding a 'fairlead' for the line, but in the event of a snag/twig/rats nest, it could pull all that towards the user. I noticed the line near Bixlers hand in the video as well, its worth thinking about from a design perspective but for now its going to be something the user needs to avoid.

Shoot me a PM and we can talk about getting you one!

He is wearing Labonville Chaps!

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Nick, that was a 12oz Harrison Rocket throw ball with 1.8 Yale Long Shot, the ball fits perfectly. That second shot was at 110 PSI it went over top of that tree before I could catch it. I know, i know... I'll be careful.
 
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Well, that was an agonizingly slow takedown. Why so tentative on the saw? You had a pull line AND wedges, just cut it and git er done. Sorry for sounding critical, but that looked like a pretty simple flop. Maybe next time edit it down to a 2 minute video with just the highlights.

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It can be tough to watch I know. Why so tentative on the saw, good question, not sure that I have a good answer... but good thing for that dog that I was!

Yeah it was a pretty simple flop, I guess I like to take my time on certain cuts and this was one of them.
 
The wedges could hurt. They leave you dickin' around at the stump for longer than you need to and they have no purpose. If you know your tree and hinge and you have a pull rope it can only go back enough to close the kerf. Call for a light pull, kerf opens, finish setting hinge thickness, exit.

I'll use wedges with a pull rope on a questionable sideleaner with a pull and side rope installed to prop up the low side and get everything I can.

The truck was too small for pulling a tree that size. Much better to use a mechanical advantage and tree or ground anchor. For a couple reasons. Better communication and no surprises.
 
Good technique to know Bo. We had quite a bit of leverage with the pull set around 2/3 the way up, also had a side rope tied off to a pine. It felt like we had snugged it up with a 6:1 with the black truck, tree still showing a few inches of hinge wood so it was more than enough.

I like how the wedges keep everything tight, and the one in the back is a good indicator of when and how much the tree begins to move. It can tell you if you have too much or too little pull on the line. My problem with dickin' around is that I shouldn't have all my wedges scattered on the ground. It would be nice if they made chaps to hold wedges and hammer.

Too small of a truck? F150 in Low Range, mud tires, weighs 6 thousand pounds, the only thing you have to worry about is blowing that tree off the stump by accident.

What do you like to use for mechanical advantage when pulling, also where would you get a ground anchor, is it reusable?

I should have compensated a little more for the trunk lean and faced the tree further to the left, or at least more of a tapered hinge having more holding wood on the high side. Also with this type of wood I wasn't worried about leaving the stump shot a little high, when it comes to the hard woods, I keep the backcut pretty flush to the apex of the notch.

I can't help but get a little nervous, feel the heart rate go up whenever I have someones house underneath a tree I'm cutting. I'm sure I could have got that one to go over with just wedges and a sledge, easy to say now though.
 
Do I understand you correct that you tightened the side rope with a truck on a 6:1. Sounds like overkill.

Haven't you heard all the stories from tow truck drivers that thought they could pull over a tree. Rear lifted up, tires smoking, pulling the truck backwards, they make great stories.

Ground anchor can be two types. Spikes in the ground or a midline between two trees. The proper ground anchor is three spikes inline each braced by the one behind. I'll look for a pic to attach.
 
I'll have to see the pic Bo.

Not quite, what I did Bo is I tied off the side rope (w/no tension), and tightened the pull line with the truck (about as tight as a 6:1 would feel). It was a little overkill.

I haven't heard any tree pulling stories from tow truck drivers, but I always thought that those trucks would be handy for what we do.
 
That was interesting Bevin. Thanks for sharing.

Do you use stake ground anchors often? I think that might be time consuming to set up.

If there isn't a tree right where I need an anchor then I use a long sling with a block to get the exact direction of pull.
 
Alot of my work is waterfront so I'll grab 2-3 willow bunches if that'll work. Otherwise not too often but I do hammer in pins. In winter it's easy to drill in ice, drop in small poles and let em freeze in, then cut em off when done. Even chip a hole, (not all the way through), with an ax, set a stick in there with a rope tied on and pour water on it and it's like concrete. That should confuse the Californians.
 
I'm near Christopher Lake, Saskatchewan in the wonderful RM of Paddockwood. Something just happened here. A big truck slid into the ditch and blocked the highway. That's the most action since the two bucks were locked on the highway and held up the schoolbus five years ago.
 
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